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    Re: Would you shoot your fellow Americans?

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    Soldiers will violate the Constitution and round-up privately and legally owned weapons.
    Why would we do that? Such a task is for little people, like cops and feds.
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    Re: Would you shoot your fellow Americans?

    I'd shoot anyone who threatened my liberty.

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    Re: Would you shoot your fellow Americans?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Shooting Americans should be a sport... seriously, the less Americans there are the better.
    I surely hope you are kidding. Otherwise????????
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    Re: Would you shoot your fellow Americans?

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    Eighty Americans are shot to death every day by other Americans, another 250-ish are wounded. What was the questioner thinking?
    Finally someone answering my question. The thread did not say war. It said shooting other Americans. In todays society that does not necessarily mean armed struggle. Some will say my post is not pertinent but I beg to differ.
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    Re: Would you shoot your fellow Americans?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dooble View Post
    I'd shoot anyone who threatened my liberty.
    Define YOUR LIBERTY please? And does this liberty only extend to you? What if what you were doing as part of what you saw as your liberty was in fact infringing on anothers? What then?
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    Re: Would you shoot your fellow Americans?

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    Eighty Americans are shot to death every day by other Americans, another 250-ish are wounded. What was the questioner thinking?
    He was referring to shooting Americans at the request of a superior, not criminals shooting other peeps, or innocents defending themselves.
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    Re: Would you shoot your fellow Americans?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    Understandable. I'm meaning if there was ever a revolution/rebellion against an increasingly tyrannical government. If it were something like American terrorists attacking government buildings/whatever, it'd make sense for troops to combat them.
    That is a self contradictory statement as the question of why involves whether or not they are engaging in terroristic or illegal action. If they are shooting at the military, government officials, cops etc because the don't like government policy? I'd blow their asses away real quick and pro-actively - and wouldn't need be in the military to do it.

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    Re: Would you shoot your fellow Americans?

    If they were about to harm me or anyone or anything I care about, then i wouldn't hesitate to light up anyone.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

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    Re: Would you shoot your fellow Americans?

    I will just say this.

    In 1989, when the communist governments were collapsing all over eastern Europe, numerous dictators appealed to the military for support. The army along and protected the institutions. Some of them ordered the army to fire on the population, and it happened. Even in my own country of Romania, numerous people had been killed by the military because they were ordered to do so. Eventually, the dictators lost the support of the army too... but not before bloodbaths have happened.

    That being said.

    Americans and all of us living in the free world. When we even BEGIN to consider EVER having to stand up against the military because they are standing against us to protect the government, we have LOST our freedoms. We are already on the way to an autocratic regime. Halfway there I might add.

    The military is NEVER meant to take action, or even consider, taking action against the people. Never. The moment such things are considered there is a the dictatorship rising. The police, or law enforcement agency, is the only one who has suppression prerogatives over the population. NEVER the army. The army is an institutions who is made STRICTLY for EXTERNAL enemies not internal turmoil.

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    Re: Would you shoot your fellow Americans?

    For our history nerds:

    "Reichswehr schießt nicht auf Reichswehr!"

    ("Reichswehr doesn't shoot on Reichswehr!")

    "Not learning from mistakes is worse than committing mistakes. When you don't allow yourself to make mistakes, it is hard to be tolerant of others and it does not allow even God to be merciful."

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