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    Re: Would you shoot your fellow Americans?

    Quote Originally Posted by NitroHangover View Post


    I almost didn't catch that.
    same here. I thought it was pretty funny the way he just slipped it in.
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    Re: Would you shoot your fellow Americans?

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    same here. I thought it was pretty funny the way he just slipped it in.
    I have to keep you people on your toes...

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    Re: Would you shoot your fellow Americans?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    I have to keep you people on your toes...

    Going through a Court Case right now and lawyers are bugging me...
    Believe me. I have no great love for lawyers, having dealt with a few of them myself. Except for Turtledude, of course.
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    Re: Would you shoot your fellow Americans?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Dude, one can be legally ordered to fire on a civilian, if that civ is engaging. It doesn't matter Martial law or otherwise.
    Was that hard? Of course it's in direct conflict with your original assertion. But thank you anyway.

    But again we're talking about American civilians here on American soil (refer to the OP question). For the situation to occur where a civilian is engaging the US military on US soil and the military being given orders to fire, generally speaking, we're talking about a martial law situation.

    Again, Posse Comitatus.

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    Re: Would you shoot your fellow Americans?

    Whoever is shooting at me, I will shoot at them if at all possible. That goes for Americans and otherwise, as a civ or not. Nonetheless, rules of engagement do not permit "shoot on sight" for curfews.

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    Re: Would you shoot your fellow Americans?

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    Believe me. I have no great love for lawyers, having dealt with a few of them myself. Except for Turtledude, of course.
    I really could have put in insurance agents just as easily...
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    Re: Would you shoot your fellow Americans?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    ]If God forbid you're a soldier and you're ever ordered by your leaders to shoot fellow Americans, would you?
    Depends on whether they're shooting at me our not. Wouldn't be the first time I put an American in the hospital.
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    Re: Would you shoot your fellow Americans?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    Understandable. I'm meaning if there was ever a revolution/rebellion against an increasingly tyrannical government. If it were something like American terrorists attacking government buildings/whatever, it'd make sense for troops to combat them.
    One man's tyranny is another man's sensible governance.

    If I were a military man, I would either obey my orders or defect. There is no honorable middle ground.

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    Re: Would you shoot your fellow Americans?

    Shooting Americans should be a sport... seriously, the less Americans there are the better.
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    Re: Would you shoot your fellow Americans?

    I think this is one of those questions that only has legs on the internet. What is this tyrannical government of which you speak? Some bombastic ranters throw that word around like pork rinds at a fat bot farm right now.

    I was a soldier
    I was in the Infantry
    I was trained to put 'feelings' aside to accomplish the Mission
    Buddies fall screaming
    But the Mission remains

    Now orders can be verified, circumstances change without 'Higher' knowing of the change
    But training is training, a soldier can easily see civilians as no threat, not armed, not destroying sensitive Government property and STILL fire on them.

    Good example is if a group of protesters is seen as un-American, treasonous, somehow privileged by the soldiers...

    May 4, 1970- 4 dead in Ohio. Guardsmen fired almost 70 rounds in less than 15 seconds.
    two things seem to stand out, either the NGs are extremely bad shots, or many of them missed on purpose but did OBEY the order to fire (perhaps obeyed training and fired when others did but to the same purpose)

    That unarmed civilians protesting in what by then was pretty much boilerplate civic protest would face armed troops and be fired on.

    I personally believe if there was a revolt against a 'tyrannical' government it won't be by those who were never soldiers but rather by large portions of the Military fed-up with the actions of the Government. The never beens would probably follow along...

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