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    Re: Would you shoot your fellow Americans?

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    No, your original assertion was:
    Dude, one can be legally ordered to fire on a civilian, if that civ is engaging. It doesn't matter Martial law or otherwise.

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    Re: Would you shoot your fellow Americans?

    It would depend on the issue and it would depend on how invested I was in the job of being a soldier.
    If being a soldier was my career and I was in some kind of special unit that was paid a good amount, I would be more likely to follow orders. If it was a random militia shooting and killing people in the name of going against a tyrannical government with very little cause, I would most likely follow my orders.

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    Re: Would you shoot your fellow Americans?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    There are no rules of engagement regarding civilians. You have to be an enemy combatant or enemy solder for the rules of engagement to apply.
    That's the other angle.

    I'm not going to confuse rules of engagement just because someone wants to cry 'Martial law!'

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    Re: Would you shoot your fellow Americans?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Dude, one can be legally ordered to fire on a civilian, if that civ is engaging. It doesn't matter Martial law or otherwise.
    I don't even have to be a soldier for that one. As a civilian I carry a gun all the time, and should something happen I'm not going to call my Team Leader to ask for permission to open fire.

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    Re: Would you shoot your fellow Americans?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    I don't even have to be a soldier for that one. As a civilian I carry a gun all the time, and should something happen I'm not going to call my Team Leader to ask for permission to open fire.
    I dunno how he got confused, unless he was hoping that he could construe Martial Law as "open season".


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    Firing on civs is not a lawful order.
    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Marial law does not render firing on a civilian a legal order. If someone is trying to shoot me, no one needs to tell me to engage.

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    Re: Would you shoot your fellow Americans?

    I don't want even think about the possibility; and that's all I have to say on the subject.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Would you shoot your fellow Americans?

    what a horrible topic...
    ‘This is not peace, it is an armistice for 20 years.’ (Ferdinand Foch. After the Treaty of Versailles, 1919).

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    Re: Would you shoot your fellow Americans?

    I would shoot a fellow American, only in the case that he/she was trying to kill me, someone I love or care for, or commit violence against an innocent bystander. Ordered to do so? No way in hell.
    "God is the name by which I designate all things which cross my path violently and recklessly, all things which alter my plans and intentions, and change the course of my life, for better or for worse."
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    Re: Would you shoot your fellow Americans?

    I wouldn't shoot anybody unless I needed to... Doesn't matter if they are American or not. I always hate it when a crisis hits and the news says, "Flight 634 went down killing all 322 people, including 8 Americans". Who gives a **** if they are Americans or not? I think that many Americans fail to realize that there are literally millions of Americans out there that are total assholes, lunatics, sociopaths, criminals, rapists, lawyers, murderers, etc.
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    Re: Would you shoot your fellow Americans?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    I think that many Americans fail to realize that there are literally millions of Americans out there that are total assholes, lunatics, sociopaths, criminals, rapists, lawyers, murderers, etc.


    I almost didn't catch that.

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