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    Re: Would you shoot your fellow Americans?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    Not sure what you mean.
    I cannot make the question simpler.

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    Re: Would you shoot your fellow Americans?

    Why would there be a revolution? Providing Health care for poor people, would that be a good reason for you to start shooting fellow americans?

    Are you so against this rightwing idea, Obamacare, that you would go to war to prevent it?

    You do know it was created by the most rightwing think tank in America, dont you?

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    Re: Would you shoot your fellow Americans?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chickenhawks View Post
    Why would there be a revolution? Providing Health care for poor people, would that be a good reason for you to start shooting fellow americans?

    Are you so against this rightwing idea, Obamacare, that you would go to war to prevent it?

    You do know it was created by the most rightwing think tank in America, dont you?
    What are you talking about? Seems to me like you're going off on a tangent.

    So, please answer my question:

    If you were/are a soldier, and were ordered to shoot any Americans who were revolting against a tyrannical government, what would you do?

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    Re: Would you shoot your fellow Americans?

    Again this poll is limited. It does not include just shooting them because you don't like them, they disagree with you or just cause your pissed off.
    Anyone who reads the news or watches TV knows this happens far too often.

    If I were young enough and we were in a civil war and I was ordered to fight. Yes I would
    Otherwise hell no.

    PS I have had a gun pointed at my face (loaded) and been shot at and I am still here.
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    Re: Would you shoot your fellow Americans?

    I was JUST talking about this with someone in a totally unrelated thread. Eerie timing.

    Anyway, I'm no soldier, but if I were, I agree that it would depend on what the fight was about.

    It's really hard to say what an individual might do or how they might feel about the situation. Personal ideology would have to figure into it, I'm sure. Depending on whether the revolt was a conservative, Tea Party-like revolt against overbearing government intervention over liberty, or a liberal, Occupy Wallstreet-like revolt against government not intervening enough to provide things for the citizenry.

    Different people may interpret each of those revolts, respectively, as either traitorous or patriotic.

    Me, I don't think I'd shoot an American for any reason unless they presented a direct threat to the safety of myself or someone else.

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    Re: Would you shoot your fellow Americans?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    I cannot make the question simpler.
    Lolz.

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    Re: Would you shoot your fellow Americans?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    This thread topic stems from the conversations gathered in the thread at the bottom of this post.

    Basically it's about civillians taking up arms against the government should the government start becoming tyrannical.

    Somewhere along the way in that thread, it was mentiond that the U.S. military could squash any sort of rebellion. Mow them down.

    So I gots a question. If God forbid you're a soldier and you're ever ordered by your leaders to shoot fellow Americans, would you?

    Likewise, if you were a soldier, or even if you're a civillians, if you were given that sort of order as a soldier, what would you do?

    I'm asking this question 'cause I want to have some sense of security, knowing that our American soldiers won't be turned against us.

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    Re: Would you shoot your fellow Americans?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Firing on civs is not a lawful order.
    It is if martial law has been declared, which is the only time the US military should be involved in a domestic matter. Posse Comitatus.

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    Re: Would you shoot your fellow Americans?

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    It is if martial law has been declared, which is the only time the US military should be involved in a domestic matter. Posse Comitatus.
    Marial law does not render firing on a civilian a legal order. If someone is trying to shoot me, no one needs to tell me to engage.

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    Re: Would you shoot your fellow Americans?

    Depends, only time we've ever had a civil war, it was fueled by one side's admitted belief that they had a god given right to own slaves and the other side's refusal to accept such a claim. As we no longer have that kind of wedge issue, there's no reason for me to even consider killing any American over anything. What am I going to shoot another American over? RomneyCare? Flat tax? Global warming? Evolution? Lol, get serious.
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