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    Re: Would you shoot your fellow Americans?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Granted, it is rather improbable... but not impossible. I'm sure many citizens of Germany in 1929 would have found the idea that in a scant decade their nation would be ruled by a genocidal dicatator to be ridiculous.
    Germany was among the most advanced nations at the time. and yes, many people who went up the chimneys of the death camps couldn't believe a country that was a leader in science and art could de-evolve to such a monstrosity

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    Re: Would you shoot your fellow Americans?

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    Jerry-
    Interesting, first you spin the Kent State shootings then claim you never would obey an order to shoot students 'threatening violence'- fair enough I guess but neither you or Sutr speak for every swinging Richard or bouncing Renee's in the military.
    Nor do I claim to be. I'd shoot another American if they did something that warranted such action. Tell me to do it for no reason other than some asshole full bird said so from the safety of his lush executive office, they're going to have to pay me a lot more, and they won't like my price.
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    Re: Would you shoot your fellow Americans?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Germany was among the most advanced nations at the time. and yes, many people who went up the chimneys of the death camps couldn't believe a country that was a leader in science and art could de-evolve to such a monstrosity
    The German people's self image was also at an all time low, after being hammered into submission after WW1.
    The people were in desperate need of feeling better about themselves, and their country.
    Sadly, Hitler's timing was perfect.
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    Re: Would you shoot your fellow Americans?

    Quote Originally Posted by SMTA View Post
    The German people's self image was also at an all time low, after being hammered into submission after WW1.
    The people were in desperate need of feeling better about themselves, and their country.
    Sadly, Hitler's timing was perfect.
    very true, the treaty of Versailles sort of came back to the "frogs" in spades. a classic case of Karma being a bitch

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    Re: Would you shoot your fellow Americans?

    Will the Libs be wearing Blue arm bands?

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    Re: Would you shoot your fellow Americans?

    Quote Originally Posted by GmH View Post
    Will the Libs be wearing Blue arm bands?
    LOL-blue state-blue armbands. Do those show up well in a Night vision sniper scope?

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    Re: Would you shoot your fellow Americans?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    LOL-blue state-blue armbands. Do those show up well in a Night vision sniper scope?
    What could you be suggesting? How Nazi, to kill off the socialists.
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    Re: Would you shoot your fellow Americans?

    From reading the thread, many have not heard of the "3" boxes that secure Liberty;

    Frederick Douglass - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Douglass continued his speaking engagements. On the lecture circuit, he spoke at many colleges around the country during the Reconstruction era, including Bates College in Lewiston, Maine in 1873. He continued to emphasize the importance of voting rights and exercise of suffrage. In a speech delivered on November 15, 1867, Douglass said "A man's rights rest in three boxes. The ballot box, jury box and the cartridge box. Let no man be kept from the ballot box because of his color. Let no woman be kept from the ballot box because of her sex".[42][43]
    I keep reading posts where people seem to think that the level of government corruption could never get to that point. I tend to disagree.
    Athens, Tennessee is a prime example of the outcome when an informed populous is put in a position to retaliate against a corrupt government.
    Many would say that this is local, and would never happen on a federal level. Many of us would argue otherwise, now that the NDAA sets
    a precedent, and that our government already views Conservative-minded citizens as terrorists;

    TSLA::“Disasters in Tennessee"
    McMinn County War, Athens, Tennessee, August 1946
    The McMinn County War, also called the Battle of Athens, was the name given to an outbreak of violence as returning GIs from World War II clashed with entrenched political interests in order to deliver the county from a corrupt system. Incumbent political-machine politician Paul Cantrell ran for sheriff again in 1946 after spending four years in the Tennessee State Senate. His crony, Pat Mansfield, had been sheriff in his absence and had cooperated with Cantrell in corrupting the local government. Among other things, they had implemented a system of fees that paid local officials for the number of people they arrested.

    Returning WWII soldiers, numbering near 3,000 in 1946 (about 10% of the area's population), were fed up with the current method of justice. Ex-GI Knox Henry ran against Cantrell, and other GIs ran for several other positions in the local government.

    On Election Day, August 1, 1946, two hundred armed deputies loyal to Cantrell watched the polls, physically beating GIs and a black man attempting to vote. A crowd gathered as deputies moved the ballot box to the local jail. The angry GIs took weapons from the local armory and fired upon the jail for half an hour until ammunition ran low. The deputies in the jail surrendered at about 2 a.m. when the GIs began to lob dynamite, destroying the jail�s porch. In the precincts free of voter fraud, the GI candidates, including Knox Henry, won the election by nearly 60%.

    By morning all violence had stopped. On that very day a governing council was set up and six men were chosen to police the county in the absence of the regular police, who had fled. After the certification of their victory, local GIs changed the method of payment of officials by limiting their salaries to $5,000, replaced county employees who resigned, and scoured out corruption in the government . . . and, yes, they also repaired the jail.
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    The MIAC was relatively unknown until March 13, 2009, when a leaked report entitled "The Modern Militia Movement," originating from MIAC, appeared on Wikileaks. Subsequent investigation was spearheaded by the Liberty Restoration Project out of Kansas City, Missouri. The report detailed trends in militia and terrorist activity in Missouri and described common symbols and media associated with militia members and domestic terrorists, in order to help police identify them. The report as leaked included suggestions that political bumper stickers such as those for U.S. Rep. Ron Paul could be used to identify militia members and terrorists.[2] The authenticity of the report was confirmed by Lt. John Hotz, the Assistant Director of the Public Information and Education Division of the Missouri State Highway Patrol, who claims that the report is derived purely from publicly available trend data on militias.[1]

    As of MARCH 27, 2009 the entire report was scrapped and letters of apology were sent to Ron Paul, Bob Barr and Chuck Baldwin.[3] Legislation was passed in Missouri which included an amendment to cut funding to the MIAC should it again engage in political profiling, and the director of the MIAC was reassigned.
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    Re: Would you shoot your fellow Americans?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Granted, it is rather improbable... but not impossible. I'm sure many citizens of Germany in 1929 would have found the idea that in a scant decade their nation would be ruled by a genocidal dicatator to be ridiculous.
    I definitely agree, and to add to your very valid point, it's been shown time and time again that a large majority will follow the directions of an authority figure, even when those directions cause harm to an innocent person (e.g. the Milgram experiment). And I don't want to sound like I'm saying that the Titanic is unsinkable.

    On the other hand, a key difference between Hitler's Germany and our America is that we have the benefit of free information. While China has certainly shown that information can be suppressed, we're so far from that kind of censorship. We're lucky to have the internet, and we're lucky to have individuals and organizations who are constantly fighting to uphold the first amendment. One of many reasons that the United States is the best country in the world.
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    Re: Would you shoot your fellow Americans?

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    What could you be suggesting? How Nazi, to kill off the socialists.
    many socialists and nazis are minor variations of the same disease

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