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Would you support a Muslim for President?

Would you vote for a Muslim candidate for president?

  • Yes, I would still vote for the candidate.

    Votes: 30 44.8%

  • No, I would not vote for the candidate.

    Votes: 19 28.4%

  • Depends (on how less-qualified the other candidates are)

    Votes: 18 26.9%
  • Total voters
    67
  • Poll closed .
I'd not be thrilled with a turban wearing president, but I think all perm-hats are weird. Otherwise, what's the objection?
 
ecofarm said:
I'd not be thrilled with a turban wearing president, but I think all perm-hats are weird. Otherwise, what's the objection?
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I don't care about the head covering- just the head under it. :lol:
 
My only issue would be bringing it up the day before the election
 
I'd prefer a fedora.
 
Lord Tammerlain said:
My only issue would be bringing it up the day before the election
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Mine too. That's why I said I would have to think about it, and who really trusts politicians to begin with, and then to bring up something like "converting" so close to an election would be a little strange.

I really don't think any politicians would actually be stupid enough to do that . . . but then again . . .
 
lizzie said:
That is definitely the case here. The only man I know personally, who wears head gear, is Sikh. I suspect Eco was just kidding around.
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I've had a very nice Sikh friend, but perm-hats are kinda spooky.
 
FluffyNinja said:
... Now let us suppose that this candidate just prior to election day, announced publicly that he/she was converting to Islam. Would you give this candidate your support? Please give your reasoning.
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I wouldn't vote for any candidate that " announced publicly that he/she was converting to" any different religious belief or atheism just before an election. Oh, you wanted to know if I'd vote for a Muslim. I assume you mean a real Muslim. No again. Also, I'd have a very hard time voting for a member of the 'Good People of the East Valley' since I'm from Phoenix and not a member of that 'religion'.
 
FluffyNinja said:
Allow me to begin by saying that Obama's presidency has nothing to do with this poll. I am in no way implying that President Obama is in anyway personally affiliated with the religion of Islam. I was inspired to create it after posting in a couple other threads which directly tied religious doctrine with support for various presidential candidates, So, here goes:

Let's use our imaginations here........Suppose there were a presidential candidate who was obviously the most experienced and the most qualified among the field of candidates. Also, let's suppose that this particular candidate espoused much or most of the political, economic, social, and moral ideals which were important to you as a voter. Now let us suppose that this candidate just prior to election day, announced publicly that he/she was converting to Islam. Would you give this candidate your support? Please give your reasoning.

*Note: Obviously this poll is directed at non-Muslim voters although anyone is welcome to participate. :shrug:
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If he was already at Muslim, and espoused those ideals, sure I'd vote for him. If he stated that he was converting to Islam right before the election, I might question if his ideals are subject to change.
 
Hatuey said:
Apparently a lot of people on the right would considering how much they keep bringing up Obama being a secret Muslim. These are the same people who then turn around and go "Well, but I wouldn't care if he was!" - Why the **** bring it up then? Same people who'll scream that Romney belonging to a creepy ass cult in Utah is not relevant.
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I agree with all of your post, but some sub groups of some religions, e.g. The Good People of the East Valley, are not creepy ass cults. They know they are special and favored in the eyes of God.
 
Sure I would, if he/she had a vision for the country that most closely matched my own.

I don't care what a candidate's religion is. I care if that religion as the candidate practices it will be imposed on the citizens via the office of president. I believe in separation of church and state. Any candidate... baptist, catholic, muslim, jewish, protestant, etc. ... who will base his/her political decisions on personal religious belief and attempt to codify them into law, imposing them upon the rest of us, will never, ever get my vote. No matter what.

The hypothetical "I'm converting to XXXXXX" right before the election announcement is too ludicrous to seriously address.
 
ecofarm said:
I'd not be thrilled with a turban wearing president, but I think all perm-hats are weird. Otherwise, what's the objection?
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With the makeup of our population I think we will see a sombrero wearing president before a turban wearing president. I have no problem with a sombrero wearing president.

But some here seem to be for this hat which I find to be too Hollywood fantasy land.
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OhIsee.Then said:
I agree with all of your post, but some sub groups of some religions, e.g. The Good People of the East Valley, are not creepy ass cults. They know they are special and favored in the eyes of God.
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Well you just described Christianity, Islam and Judaism in a nutshell. A bunch of egotistical maniacs who think they have a divine commandment to do the ****ed up **** they do.
 
No I wouldn't. Most religious denominations can be ignored by their followers in every day life, but like Mormonism, Scientology, etc its clearly a religion that wants to keep you in line all the time. Judaism, Catholics, Protestants, etc you can ignore that **** all day every day and no one even your own religious peers will give a ****.
 
I gave a tentative yes. My hesitance is unrelated to the Muslim thing. It's more along the lines of Objective-J's apprehension.

Why announce right before the election? What's with the sudden conversion? "Oh my god" moments (no pun intended) during times of extremely high stress (like an election) make me a bit nervous about the stability of the candidate, regardless of what their "oh my god" moment is.

The fact that they're Muslim wouldn't matter. The situation surrounding it would.

But for the purpose of this hypothetical, I am going to assume that nothing about them has changed except their religion. In that case, yes.
 
The fact that he converts right before an election is more worrying than the fact he's converting to Islam.
I voted yes, at first, but after thinking about it a second, I don't know. It really depends.

However, just for talking points, if it was known all along that he was muslim, and if by chance I wasn't sure who was most qualified, I would deliberately pick the muslim because he was muslim. As someone who sympathizes greatly with black civil rights, it felt really damn good to finally have a black president, and I will readily admit that was one reason I voted for Obama in 2008. It wasn't a dominant reason, nor should it be, but I wanted to send America the message that we're better than our racial bigots, and I'm happy America finally made that statement. I will feel the same way when a woman is elected president, I'll approve of a hispanic president, and I will heartily cheer when we have a muslim president, simply because it would go a long way towards establishing greater religious tolerance in this country. I think the fear-trade pseudo-religious war that Americans wage against Islam is completely shameful and a disgrace to the ideals of this country, and it needs to stop.

I'm dreading that before long we'll be irrationally afraid of a chinese presidency, too. That's far less statistically likely, but even so, it's ridiculous.
 
Now that I've had time to think, I would have to say that yes, a candidate suddenly wanting to switch his religion or to suddenly find religion the day or several days before an important election would make me pause. Perhaps he would be having some kind of personal emotional crisis or something. We really need people who are functioning with all of their mental and emotional capacities intact.
 
Hatuey said:
Well you just described Christianity, Islam and Judaism in a nutshell. A bunch of egotistical maniacs who think they have a divine commandment to do the ****ed up **** they do.
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Yes. But, I was wondering, do you know who specifically who the Good People of the East Valley, as they sometimes reefer to themselves when coding is needed, are? A hint is one of our governors uses the phrase.
 
I would vote based on the qualifications of the candidate. Their religion has no bearing whatsoever on their ability to do the job.
 
ChrisL said:
To be completely honest, an announcement such as that might make me feel a little apprehensive, but I guess as long as he wasn't a fundamentalist and wasn't planning on following Sharia law and knew enough not to involve his/her personal religious beliefs with his politics, I would like to think I could vote for him or her regardless.
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This is pretty much how I feel. I voted "depends", and I wouldn't shut the person out completely, but right now I would be apprehensive.
 
I would support someone of muslim ancestry. I don't tend to vote for very religious people though -- they seem to have trouble separating their faith from their political policy. I would say I would be just as likely to vote for a secular-minded muslim as a secular-minded christian, and just as unlikely to vote for a fundamentalist muslim as a fundamentalist christian.
 
If he announced it just before the election, and with no further explanation of WHY he converted...yes I'd be apprehencive.

As a note, I'd say the same thing if a guy was a Muslim or a Jew or an Athiest and days before the election suddenly converted to become a Baptist.

Why?

Because, without a reason for the conversion, it opens up a number of potential avenues for WHY the conversion happened. Some could be benign (He just got married and is taking his wife's religion for instance), other's would give me pause (He suddenly had a religious awakening and has became a fervent devotee of the religion).

Having known people who've converted to or "found" religion, I can't say that I'd particular want any of them making decisions in such a scope as such a time period tends to be one where the focus in their life is on religion above all else. I want a President whose focus is on being President before all else. "Finding" religion can also cause significant, sudden, substantial changes in an individuals view points making all those previous stances that I liked so much about the candidate come into question.

So my answer would likely be...no, I would not vote for the person and would likely vote 3rd party or sit out as I would be uncomfortable in fully believing I would like to support the individual as President.
 
I wouldn't right now because I think that it would embolden the extremists into more terror...
 
It doesn't matter what there religion is. Religion is suppose to be between man and his god. Has no place when it comes to matters of running a country. I vote for a candidate because he stands where I stand on the issues, not because of his religion. Also I am and athiest.
 
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