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    Legality of employee threats in terms of election

    Do you think it is /should be illegal for an employer to tell an employee or employer "You certainly can vote however you want nor need tell me, but if Obama (or Romney) wins the election you will be laid off? Does it matter if that statement is accurate?

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    Re: Legality of employee threats in terms of election

    Don't know why it didn't go to the poll details page as I checked it to have 4 poll options.

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    Re: Legality of employee threats in terms of election

    I think it is wrong and there may be some law against it but it happens all the time. A case was on the news last nite just like that.
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    Re: Legality of employee threats in terms of election

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Do you think it is /should be illegal for an employer to tell an employee or employer "You certainly can vote however you want nor need tell me, but if Obama (or Romney) wins the election you will be laid off? Does it matter if that statement is accurate?
    Yes, it should be illegal as it's a veiled threat to vote for the employer's preferred candidate.
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    Re: Legality of employee threats in terms of election

    What were the poll options?

    I think it should absolutely be illegal for employers to threaten to fire employees unless they vote a certain way. That is absolutely despicable, and allowing that type of behavior is anti-democratic.

    The news story you are alluding to is a little different. He basically warned them that Obama's policies may cost them their jobs. I really don't like that either. But I'm not sure I would go so far as to say I think that type of behavior should be illegal.

    I don't believe this guy will, as he claims, be "forced" to fire anybody if Obama is reelected. He may choose to do so to cut some of his costs while maintaining his luxurious standard of living (which is his right). I guess it's fair for him to warn employees of that fact. I just hope his employees and customers punish him for his greed rather than punish Obama for it.
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    Re: Legality of employee threats in terms of election

    If you are talking about something like the email from the Westgate Resorts CEO, I think it is a blatant attempt to bully employees into voting in the interest of the corporation over their own. Notice that Mr. Siegel doesn't assure his employees he won't lay anyone off if Romney is elected so he could basically do what corporations did with the myriad tax breaks over the last decade, get what benefits you and then do whatever you want anyway. Really what is ironic is idiots like Siegel probably end up boosting support for Obama since their hypocritical and elitist attitude toward the peons just shows the right's true agenda.

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    Re: Legality of employee threats in terms of election

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Do you think it is /should be illegal for an employer to tell an employee or employer "You certainly can vote however you want nor need tell me, but if Obama (or Romney) wins the election you will be laid off? Does it matter if that statement is accurate?
    I don't know if it's legal or not but it certainly is bull****.
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    Re: Legality of employee threats in terms of election

    It should be illegal for anyone to coerce or threaten someone to vote a certain way. Who you vote for is no one's business.
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    Re: Legality of employee threats in terms of election

    Quote Originally Posted by Loki97 View Post
    If you are talking about something like the email from the Westgate Resorts CEO, I think it is a blatant attempt to bully employees into voting in the interest of the corporation over their own. Notice that Mr. Siegel doesn't assure his employees he won't lay anyone off if Romney is elected so he could basically do what corporations did with the myriad tax breaks over the last decade, get what benefits you and then do whatever you want anyway. Really what is ironic is idiots like Siegel probably end up boosting support for Obama since their hypocritical and elitist attitude toward the peons just shows the right's true agenda.
    Most of Siegel's letter was lifted from a letter going around in 2008. Siegel and his wife are the quintessential tasteless, nouveau riche one encounters in Florida. Older guy with a bottle blond bimbo with big boobs and bad taste. Siegel's wife looks like a hooker from the Sopranos. She bragged about spending a million a year on clothes. She was once "Mrs. Florida America", whatever the hell that is. LOL! I think her husband bought her a new beauty pageant that she could win. I'm serious. She is also said to have been an actress. I think she played a tree once on Pee Wee Herman's Fun House. I'm betting Dan bought her into some bit roles, aren't you? Wait, it gets more stereotypical!

    Dan Siegel is quick to tell everyone that he was so poor growing up in Miami that he lived in a studio apartment with his parents. But things got better. There's nothing wrong with that. Siegel got in Orlando fairly early in the time share thing and now owns resorts all over the place - or did.

    This all works better if you've read Siegel's letter to his employees.

    Siegel began building the largest house in the U.S. about 3 years ago, 90,000 sq. ft. He called it the "Versailles." Building a big house in the U.S. and calling it the Versailles fits perfectly into the Siegel and wife persona of tasteless Florida nouveau riche. Pictures of the unfinished edifice of excess are difficult to look at without laughing out loud. It's butt ugly. No doubt Dan and "Mrs. Florida America" drew the design themselves. Why build a residence that large? "Because I can," said Dan, the one percenter.

    "Versailles" drips with tastelessness and would have been a monument to more money than brains - had they finished it. Seems Dan over extended himself. Naaaaa, ya think? He also overextended himself when time shares became liabilities to a lot of people. Dan and Mrs. Florida America got caught living waaaaaaay too large. Versailles saw its construction halted a couple of times because Dan couldn't float the construction costs. Now Versailles is on the market unfinished, if you're interested. 75 million, I think, and you have to install your own plumbing. A billionaire fixer upper.

    Dan has let a thousand or so people go as he tried to hang on to his empire while building a house that includes 11 kitchens, 6 swimming pools and a 20 car garage. You gotta toss a lot of staff over the side to help pay for that kind of "home".

    So Dan sends out the letter, which he plagiarized, that says "Hey, this is all mine. I want to keep it. You people have to help me. If Romney wins I'll be able to continue to live shamelessly. My losses thus far are all the fault of Democrats and if Romney doesn't win, the Democrats will destroy my business and I'll have to fire many or most of you. Vote Romney."

    What a load of horse ****!
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    Re: Legality of employee threats in terms of election

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Do you think it is /should be illegal for an employer to tell an employee or employer "You certainly can vote however you want nor need tell me, but if Obama (or Romney) wins the election you will be laid off? Does it matter if that statement is accurate?
    Unless we suspended the First Amendment, I'd say an employer can say anything he'd like. And, no, it doesn't matter whether or not it's accurate.
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