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    Re: Legality of employee threats in terms of election

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Do you think it is /should be illegal for an employer to tell an employee or employer "You certainly can vote however you want nor need tell me, but if Obama (or Romney) wins the election you will be laid off? Does it matter if that statement is accurate?
    That would be absurd unless the job specifically related to the candidate. ie ... A project or job or staff position related to either candidate then clearly if the opponent wins the position no longer exists.

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    Re: Legality of employee threats in terms of election

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Unless we suspended the First Amendment, I'd say an employer can say anything he'd like. And, no, it doesn't matter whether or not it's accurate.
    Is intimidation now allowable? I guess we won't be hearing MaggieD ever complaining about how the New Black Panthers intimidated voters in Philly.
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    Re: Legality of employee threats in terms of election

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Unless we suspended the First Amendment, I'd say an employer can say anything he'd like. And, no, it doesn't matter whether or not it's accurate.
    Then I can suggest to someone that voting for Obama might improve the chances their house doesn't burn down? If the man wanted to discuss possible impacts of Obamacare, which Romney will not be able to repeal in all likelihood, or other specific economic influences on his business it is quite a different thing than saying if Obama gets elected I'll close the company down. Isn't this the same kind of hollow and egotistical threat Alec Balwin was ridiculed for by the right in 2004?

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    Re: Legality of employee threats in terms of election

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    Re: Legality of employee threats in terms of election

    Quote Originally Posted by Loki97 View Post
    Then I can suggest to someone that voting for Obama might improve the chances their house doesn't burn down? If the man wanted to discuss possible impacts of Obamacare, which Romney will not be able to repeal in all likelihood, or other specific economic influences on his business it is quite a different thing than saying if Obama gets elected I'll close the company down. Isn't this the same kind of hollow and egotistical threat Alec Balwin was ridiculed for by the right in 2004?
    Would you be arrested if you suggested such? I don't anything about Alec Baldwin and 2004.
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    Re: Legality of employee threats in terms of election

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Is intimidation now allowable? I guess we won't be hearing MaggieD ever complaining about how the New Black Panthers intimidated voters in Philly.
    Completely different set of circumstances. If my company says to me, "If Obama gets elected for another term, I'm probably going to have to shut the company down because he intends to raise taxes on business. I'm barely making it now," I wouldn't consider that intimidation. Swinging night sticks in front of polling places? Just a tad different.
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    Re: Legality of employee threats in terms of election

    Quote Originally Posted by Kr1ll1n View Post
    Pee Wee's Playhouse - Fixed that for you.....
    Though another flaw would be the hookers on "The Sopranos" were a couple notches above Siegel's wife though the realism of that could also be called into question.

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    Re: Legality of employee threats in terms of election

    Quote Originally Posted by Kr1ll1n View Post
    Pee Wee's Playhouse - Fixed that for you.....
    Thanks. I was never a big Pee Wee fan. I just knew never to sit in front of him in an adult theater.

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    Re: Legality of employee threats in terms of election

    Quote Originally Posted by Loki97 View Post
    Though another flaw would be the hookers on "The Sopranos" were a couple notches above Siegel's wife though the realism of that could also be called into question.
    I couldn't resist. I bought every season of Pee-Wee's Playhouse on iTunes, and my 2yr old daughter and I watch an episode every night before I read to her and put her to bed. Despite Pee-Wee's past indiscretions (which were overblown, btw) the show was very imaginative for kids.

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    Re: Legality of employee threats in terms of election

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Would you be arrested if you suggested such? I don't anything about Alec Baldwin and 2004.
    Sorry, Baldwin threatened to leave the U.S. if Bush was elected in 2000. He didn't carry through with it and neither will Siegel unless A) His company is in trouble anyway and this is a convenient excuse. B) His own financial ineptitude causes the company to tank. It is the essential difference between the elitist class and the common citizenry that one threat(leveled across a vast number of people whose personal actions can't assure the desired outcome) to deprive someone of an economic necessity is considered legal while one directed against an individual who completely controls their own fulfillment of the demand isn't. They are both intimidation and should be treated equally. BTW, unless I was stupid enough to make my suggestion in front of witnesses, I could always claim I either never said it or my meaning was misinterpreted.

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