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Which government is going a better job, that of the USA or of Canada?

Which government is going a better job, that of the USA or of Canada?


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Which government is going a better job, that of the USA or of Canada?
 
The American Government, without a doubt. If for no other reason that the US Government can still at least marginally claim to be interested in a non-Socialist society.
 
This poll is senseless. Do a better job in what ares?

This poll will solve no questions, no issues and will only add to the incosistency and awkwardness of general politics.
 
The American Government, without a doubt. If for no other reason that the US Government can still at least marginally claim to be interested in a non-Socialist society.

Absolute crap.

First of all... you have claimed on many occasions that it is impossible to be fiscally conservative without being socially conservative because they go hand in hand.

Canada according to you is a worthless country, an immoral country... which is ironic since you consider 90% of your own countrymen immoral and would have them executed according to your warped "morality".

But Canada is actually on target for having a balanced budget or budget surplus within the next few years.

In fact... becareful because I'm going to use facts here.

During the 90's going into the 2000's the Canadian government produced 7 straight budget surpluses and do you know which party achieved that goal?

The Liberal Party.

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Beat that with a stick.
 
Holy **** tigger, facts ... Maybe something you should look into.
 
The one with a Queen.
 
Which government is going a better job, that of the USA or of Canada?

What the hell does that even mean? Going a better job? You typed it three times like that so I assume it isn't a typo.
 
First of all... you have claimed on many occasions that it is impossible to be fiscally conservative without being socially conservative because they go hand in hand.

Exactly Correct, though as I'm going to point out below, you need to comprehend what fiscal conservatism IS.

Canada according to you is a worthless country, an immoral country... which is ironic since you consider 90% of your own countrymen immoral and would have them executed according to your warped "morality".

No. It's probably only about 75% that would be executed. The other 15% would likely be in prison.

But Canada is actually on target for having a balanced budget or budget surplus within the next few years....
.....During the 90's going into the 2000's the Canadian government produced 7 straight budget surpluses and do you know which party achieved that goal?

The Liberal Party.

Critical Mistake.... Assuming that a balanced budget makes an economy Fiscally Conservative. It is PART of the equation, but not all of it. Unfortunately things like Welfare, Social Security, and National Healthcare cannot exist in a Fiscally Conservative system, even if they are "paid for" on a yearly basis in the budget. It's not just about HOW MUCH you spend, or even how that compares to what you bring in. It's also about WHAT you spend it on.
 
Exactly Correct, though as I'm going to point out below, you need to comprehend what fiscal conservatism IS.

No. It's probably only about 75% that would be executed. The other 15% would likely be in prison.

Critical Mistake.... Assuming that a balanced budget makes an economy Fiscally Conservative. It is PART of the equation, but not all of it. Unfortunately things like Welfare, Social Security, and National Healthcare cannot exist in a Fiscally Conservative system, even if they are "paid for" on a yearly basis in the budget. It's not just about HOW MUCH you spend, or even how that compares to what you bring in. It's also about WHAT you spend it on.

Whatever dude.

Continue to deny reality.
 
Continue to deny reality.

To deny the obvious inappropriateness of taking money from those who have to give to those who not only don't have, but don't deserve to have is sheer lunacy. THAT is reality.
 
My answer is also Canada. Some of my reasons are personal and some political.
 
Canada has no queen it has prime minister and parliment. The queen is just symbolic of thier past ties to Britain. She has absolutely no authority there.

She has reserve powers exercised through an appointed representative.
 
I am obligated to say Canada. We have a nearly balanced budget, a Commons that succeeds in passing constructive bills, and the parties actually take compromise. Once Harper is gone, we are going leaps and bounds forward.
 
Sometimes I wish the US would simply scrap a few Articles of the constitution and just adopt a Parliamentary government. So much more efficient and we'd sure save a great deal of wasted time, money, and TV/radio ad space every 4 years during election season. :shrug:
 
Absolute crap.

First of all... you have claimed on many occasions that it is impossible to be fiscally conservative without being socially conservative because they go hand in hand.

Canada according to you is a worthless country, an immoral country... which is ironic since you consider 90% of your own countrymen immoral and would have them executed according to your warped "morality".

But Canada is actually on target for having a balanced budget or budget surplus within the next few years.

In fact... becareful because I'm going to use facts here.

During the 90's going into the 2000's the Canadian government produced 7 straight budget surpluses and do you know which party achieved that goal?

The Liberal Party.

Beat that with a stick.

That's one of the reasons I voted for Canada. The budget is usually in balance. Deficit spending is the exception rather than the rule.

Exactly Correct, though as I'm going to point out below, you need to comprehend what fiscal conservatism IS.

No. It's probably only about 75% that would be executed. The other 15% would likely be in prison.

Critical Mistake.... Assuming that a balanced budget makes an economy Fiscally Conservative. It is PART of the equation, but not all of it. Unfortunately things like Welfare, Social Security, and National Healthcare cannot exist in a Fiscally Conservative system, even if they are "paid for" on a yearly basis in the budget. It's not just about HOW MUCH you spend, or even how that compares to what you bring in. It's also about WHAT you spend it on.

Should people take you seriously when you say you would execute or imprison 90% of the population? I hope you're kidding. Also, it's ridiculous to call Canada's Medicare system anything other than fiscally conservative. (Confusingly they've named their universal health insurance system the same thing we call our medical insurance for the elderly.) In Canada, Medicare is the health insurance that everyone has. The truth is, and has been proven over and over, Canadian Medicare is less expensive than the USA's patchwork system of private health insurance and some government health insurance. (American Medicare, Medicaid, the VA). When the Canadians pay less for health insurance and balance their budget most of the time, that's being more fiscally conservative than the United States. What we do is have reckless greed-driven health care, profiting off illness and running up the costs, combined with reckless spending on wars that have nothing to do with the defense of the country. Most of this has been created by the Republicans, though the Democrats have had some role in it. I've said it before and I'll say it again. The Republicans are not conservatives by definition. The fact that they've done so much deficit spending under Reagan, Bush Sr. , and Bush Jr. proves that. They're plutocrats.

In any event, this explains my vote for the Government of Canada.
 
Canada has the luxury of being located north of the United States. It makes us a very unique country, because our largest trading partner is next door and vice versa, we have the longest undefended border in the world, we don't have to worry about military build up and can focus our military to do a few jobs very well, our beer is way better, we get all your television shows including NFL today, and we share a hockey league or two (which is way more important than most americans can appreciate).

Now you couple that with single payer medicare for all citizens, along with the same set of social assistence programs as in the US, a parlimentary system that mandates elections of a minimum of 36 days (average over the 16 years) and election spending tightly controlled with a combination of public funds and private donations, what most americans would call draconian banking/finance regulations which was the reason we avoided the worst of the meltdown, and - did I mention our beer is way better? - and we have a pretty sweet deal going on up here. I doubt very much it would be so sweet if it weren't for being lucky to have the land and resources we do, really good beer, the best hockey players and most importantly the United States as our neighbour.
 
I don't know much about Canadian politics so I won't vote.

I just know Steven Harper sucks.
 
Canada has the luxury of being located north of the United States. It makes us a very unique country, because our largest trading partner is next door and vice versa, we have the longest undefended border in the world, we don't have to worry about military build up and can focus our military to do a few jobs very well, our beer is way better, we get all your television shows including NFL today, and we share a hockey league or two (which is way more important than most americans can appreciate).

The US may be Canada's biggest trading partner, but the other way around is certainly not true.
 
Should people take you seriously when you say you would execute or imprison 90% of the population? I hope you're kidding.

Yes they should, but it's no skin off my nose if they don't.

Also, it's ridiculous to call Canada's Medicare system anything other than fiscally conservative. (Confusingly they've named their universal health insurance system the same thing we call our medical insurance for the elderly.) In Canada, Medicare is the health insurance that everyone has. The truth is, and has been proven over and over, Canadian Medicare is less expensive than the USA's patchwork system of private health insurance and some government health insurance.

The whole concept of a National Healthcare system, whether it's for the elderly OR every citizen is not a Conservative concept to begin with. It's just that simple. Less expensive, more expensive makes no difference. It's not a Socially Conservative program and therefore cannot be part of a Fiscally Conservative system.
 
The US may be Canada's biggest trading partner, but the other way around is certainly not true.

It is 100% true that we are each other's largest trading partners. Both of our economies would be screwed with the other.
 
Which government is going a better job, that of the USA or of Canada?
Canada, but that isn't saying much. We should be kicking the crap out of these guys.
 
Generally speaking, Canada has done a better job in recent years. Canada actually had real financial regulations in place that allowed them to avoid the worst of the recession that plagued the rest of the developed world. And the Bank of Canada has generally responded more quickly and forcefully than the Federal Reserve.
 
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