View Poll Results: Does An American Have Freedom Of Science?

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  • No; there are limits to religious freedom when that is contradicted by science

    5 19.23%
  • Science cannot limit an American's freedom of religion

    7 26.92%
  • Sometimes. Kids should be taught whatever their parents want, but not abused.

    2 7.69%
  • I think my religion explains the world and I have no use for science

    0 0%
  • What I do in my private life is my own business, and I can raise my kids however I like

    10 38.46%
  • No opinion or undecided

    2 7.69%
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Thread: You Have No Constitutional Right To Your Own Science

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    Re: You Have No Constitutional Right To Your Own Science

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    Science is one view of reality.
    No Tigger, you are incorrect.
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    Re: You Have No Constitutional Right To Your Own Science

    Quote Originally Posted by Pinkie View Post
    The thread is about the tension between freedom of religion and reality AKA, science.
    Your OP talked about not treating religion as science and thus, Goshin's point was a strawman since it creates a false equivalence between religion and science that was denied in your OP. Has the thread changes since your OP?

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    Re: You Have No Constitutional Right To Your Own Science

    Quote Originally Posted by Jredbaron96 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    Science is one view of reality
    Yeah, no. No it's not Tigger.
    Exactamundo.

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    Re: You Have No Constitutional Right To Your Own Science

    Quote Originally Posted by Pinkie View Post
    Exactamundo.
    Comprendo Amigo?
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    Re: You Have No Constitutional Right To Your Own Science

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    Your OP talked about not treating religion as science and thus, Goshin's point was a strawman since it creates a false equivalence between religion and science that was denied in your OP. Has the thread changes since your OP?
    No, not at all -- and Goshin seems not to agree with me. (I'm not 100% sure what his POV is.)

    My POV is that religion needs to shove over for reality AKA science in certain areas of our public life.

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    Re: You Have No Constitutional Right To Your Own Science

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    True, but beliefs that are obviously bat**** shouldn't be pushed around as science. Young Earth Creationism for one. We have TWO count them, TWO YECs on the House Science Committee. That is insane.
    What is insane is that 10 to 20% of us accept this YEC , but as we have a Representative democracy, the 15% should be repped..
    As to being on a committee, it would be interesting as to how this happened..The YECers have their supporters, I think...

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    Re: You Have No Constitutional Right To Your Own Science

    Quote Originally Posted by Pinkie View Post
    AND if you chose a private school for your child, don't ask taxpayers to buy textbooks for that private school that replace science with religion.
    I understand where you're coming from Pinkie, but why not? You admitted they have the right to educate their children alternatively and their tax dollars pay for everyone elese's children to have the texts that suit them.

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    Re: You Have No Constitutional Right To Your Own Science

    Quote Originally Posted by Jredbaron96 View Post
    Comprendo Amigo?
    Sólo tomé españoles en la secundaria, y no recuerdo mucho de él.

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    Re: You Have No Constitutional Right To Your Own Science

    Quote Originally Posted by Jredbaron96 View Post
    No Tigger, you are incorrect.
    Ok, so you can prove, beyond a reasonable doubt, EXACTLY what happened at the beginning of time, or at least this universe, correct? You can prove, beyond a reasonable doubt that mankind evolved from another species, correct?

    Until you can PROVE IT, it's a THEORY and holds no more water in my mind than the "fairy tales" and "mythology" that I put my FAITH in.

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    Re: You Have No Constitutional Right To Your Own Science

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    What is insane is that 10 to 20% of us accept this YEC , but as we have a Representative democracy, the 15% should be repped..
    As to being on a committee, it would be interesting as to how this happened..The YECers have their supporters, I think...
    They do. But YEC specifically comes into conflict with measurement, which at that point it's reality (measurement) or fantasy (YEC). There can be a lot of YEC believers out there, it's just that none of that should find its way into law.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    "I should have loved freedom, I believe, at all times, but in the time in which we live I am ready to worship it."

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