View Poll Results: Does An American Have Freedom Of Science?

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  • No; there are limits to religious freedom when that is contradicted by science

    5 19.23%
  • Science cannot limit an American's freedom of religion

    7 26.92%
  • Sometimes. Kids should be taught whatever their parents want, but not abused.

    2 7.69%
  • I think my religion explains the world and I have no use for science

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  • What I do in my private life is my own business, and I can raise my kids however I like

    10 38.46%
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Thread: You Have No Constitutional Right To Your Own Science

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    Re: You Have No Constitutional Right To Your Own Science

    Quote Originally Posted by wolfman24 View Post
    But who controls us. The right or religion? That has been tried and failed horribly. We are in the 21st century and we still drive internal combustion engines. We still use fossil fuels, are still for the most part stuck on this tiny rock in space. WHo decides.

    I understand your point and believe that we do a pretty good job of monitoring ourselves, but if there must be some type of "control" or review (better word) then let us have an equal part in the process.

    I dont know about you and Ill speak for me...no one controls me but my boss and weve been married along time

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    Re: You Have No Constitutional Right To Your Own Science

    Quote Originally Posted by wolfman24 View Post
    In order to understand where the first one celled organism came from you would have to first understand bio chemistry and cellular biology as well as organic and inorganic chemistry. It is not a simple answer and it took probalby millions of years to happen. The real question is where did the Big Bang come from?

    Wolfman that sounded very good...it sounded professional intelligent and knowledgeable....errr except it didnt tell me where the first line of the living came from....who created it or made it or how it even came to be...so im still in the same boat....clueless just like everyone else

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    Re: You Have No Constitutional Right To Your Own Science

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    I dont know about you and Ill speak for me...no one controls me but my boss and weve been married along time
    Yeah I know the feeling. But in academic and research science this is rarely the case even if the researchers are married.
    "Those who do not learn from history and condemned to relive it".

    "There are those who will debate the necessity of wilderness, I will not, either you know it in your bones or you are very very old". Aldo Leopold - Sand County Almanac

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    Re: You Have No Constitutional Right To Your Own Science

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Wolfman that sounded very good...it sounded professional intelligent and knowledgeable....errr except it didnt tell me where the first line of the living came from....who created it or made it or how it even came to be...so im still in the same boat....clueless just like everyone else
    Yes I agree but my answer is in my last statement and most scientists have long ago accepted the answer to that question.
    "Those who do not learn from history and condemned to relive it".

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    Re: You Have No Constitutional Right To Your Own Science

    Quote Originally Posted by wolfman24 View Post
    Yes I agree but my answer is in my last statement and most scientists have long ago accepted the answer to that question.

    I dont have full trust in scientists...scientists that were HAILED as gods in the 1940s have been proven dead wrong...and Im sure scientists in 2012 in the future will be proven dead wrong....point is what they accept is not necessarily what is.

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    Re: You Have No Constitutional Right To Your Own Science

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    I dont have full trust in scientists...scientists that were HAILED as gods in the 1940s have been proven dead wrong...and Im sure scientists in 2012 in the future will be proven dead wrong....point is what they accept is not necessarily what is.
    I have no idea what you are talking about but lets leave it that is your opinion and you are entitled to it. I do not want to get into a yes they are no they aren't. This would be pointless and no one would get very far.
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    Re: You Have No Constitutional Right To Your Own Science

    Quote Originally Posted by wolfman24 View Post
    I have no idea what you are talking about but lets leave it that is your opinion and you are entitled to it. I do not want to get into a yes they are no they aren't. This would be pointless and no one would get very far.

    Good enough

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    Re: You Have No Constitutional Right To Your Own Science

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    I dont have full trust in scientists...scientists that were HAILED as gods in the 1940s have been proven dead wrong...and Im sure scientists in 2012 in the future will be proven dead wrong....point is what they accept is not necessarily what is.
    The funny thing about science is that when proven wrong,it is more willing to admit it was wrong far quicker than religion does.Then it tries other avenues to pursue far quicker than religion does.
    It may take a generation for science to admit it was wrong about something,but it takes religions centuries or even millenium (if it ever does) to admit it.

    In my profession,there's a saying,"there is a science to cooking and an art to dining.A chef that relies of faith alone is a lousy chef".

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    Re: You Have No Constitutional Right To Your Own Science

    Quote Originally Posted by wolfman24 View Post
    Never going to happen. Physical v Natural evolution
    There will always be the question, "What came before that?", and science can only answer that question up to a certain extent. People ask the question, "What came before the Big Bang?", and science may very well answer that question. But, then the question will be "What came before that which came before the Big Bang?", and science may find out the answer to that as well. But, this will just keep going on and on until science really can't give an answer.

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    Re: You Have No Constitutional Right To Your Own Science

    Quote Originally Posted by wolfman24 View Post
    If you have been keeping track they have already found some of the "building blocks" for life on Mars. Whether they ever got beyond that point is a good question.
    Again, it does not appear to me that "life" is a bright line, scientifically speaking.

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