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    Re: Which type of judges would support human cloning?

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    Which sort of judges or Supreme Court justices would be more sympathetic to human cloning, stem cell research, or other sorts of bioethics issues? Liberal judges or conservative judges?

    What do you all think?
    I don't think there's anything remotely conservative about human cloning. It's a serious possibility in the future.
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    Re: Which type of judges would support human cloning?

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    Scientific and medical issues should be decided based on the scientific and medical factors involved. For example, cloning animals like dolly showed that clones have potentially serious medical problems as a result of the cloning process and genetic material used. Full human cloning should be banned because of the high potential for harm to the clone and lack of potential medicals benefits even if it proves successful. What is most important is that such issues be examined with facts and logic, not fear and prejudice.
    No, medical breakthroughs present new medical ethics questions.

    Ethics are not scientific matters nor could they be, but a person needs substantial scientific knowledge to opine on a question of medical ethics.

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    Re: Which type of judges would support human cloning?

    Quote Originally Posted by shiang View Post
    I don't think there's anything remotely conservative about human cloning. It's a serious possibility in the future.
    Agreed on both counts. What are your personal thoughts about the issue of human cloning?

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    Re: Which type of judges would support human cloning?

    If all your looking for is a better vegetable or cow thats one thing, but if you are looking for another Einstein or DiVinci that is quite another. The odds on reproducing an exact duplicate of any famous person are astronomical. They would have to have the same experiences and socialization and learning as the original. They would have to for lack of a better term be able to exactly duplicate the life of the original. that is almost impossible.
    Some people also after watching to much TV that a clone starts out as a grown human. No it starts out as a baby like everyone else.

    So the likely hood of this becoming a driving force in society is imho remote.
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    Re: Which type of judges would support human cloning?

    Quote Originally Posted by shiang View Post
    I don't think there's anything remotely conservative about human cloning. It's a serious possibility in the future.
    I agree. I imagine the technology exists today and only ethical quandries are holding scientists back.

    They can clone sheep, dogs, etc. One mammal is more or less like another, for this purpose, I would think.

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    Re: Which type of judges would support human cloning?

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    That is reactionary nonsense. "full human cloning" or reproductive cloning as it is properly known, is the right of every person. It is not the business of government to ban reproductive cloning, for what ultimately amount to superstitious reasons.
    Current animal cloning methods have an unacceptably high rate of problems. It is unethical to deliberately create humans with a high probability of crippling defects. It is not a matter of superstition, it is valid medical ethics. Reproductive cloning should be banned until such a time at which it can performed with an acceptable risk of complications.

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    Re: Which type of judges would support human cloning?

    Quote Originally Posted by wolfman24 View Post
    If all your looking for is a better vegetable or cow thats one thing, but if you are looking for another Einstein or DiVinci that is quite another. The odds on reproducing an exact duplicate of any famous person are astronomical. They would have to have the same experiences and socialization and learning as the original. They would have to for lack of a better term be able to exactly duplicate the life of the original. that is almost impossible.
    Some people also after watching to much TV that a clone starts out as a grown human. No it starts out as a baby like everyone else.

    So the likely hood of this becoming a driving force in society is imho remote.
    Even one known human clone would blow most people's minds, and doubtless somewhere, there's an egomaniac with the money to buy himself a duplicate.

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    Re: Which type of judges would support human cloning?

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    Current animal cloning methods have an unacceptably high rate of problems. It is unethical to deliberately create humans with a high probability of crippling defects. It is not a matter of superstition, it is valid medical ethics. Reproductive cloning should be banned until such a time at which it can performed with an acceptable risk of complications.
    No argument here, but that just postpones the inevitable. Sooner or later, we'll be faced with this issue.

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    Re: Which type of judges would support human cloning?

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    Agreed on both counts. What are your personal thoughts about the issue of human cloning?
    I mean I can see potential problems obviously and there's no really dire need as of now so I don't think it'll be legal anytime in the immediate future. Scientifically I think we're nowhere near ready and we don't understand it well enough. For example we know the 4 compounds of the double helix determine the properties of cells but we don't have a clue why and how.

    However I also don't think human cloning would necessarily mean an apocalypse either. Probably won't be too different from making a twin. Would be rather cool if we can clone famous people like Albert Einstein.

    Mixed feelings, but if you read my leaning it's progressive. Anything is open to debate for me so long there's good reasoning.

    One potential problem I do see is people might want to seek sudo "immortality" and instead wind up hindering advancing generations.

    On a similar note I've thought of genetic engineering of humans, to make people smarter, stronger, better looking ect. Kind of like how we engineer our food these days. The bigger idea is we can design smarter people and they in turn are smarter so will be able to design even smarter people. Then again how smart and powerful do humans need to be and is that a good thing?

    I think the zombie movies are a little blown out of proportion. We haven't exactly made zombie plants and we've genetically engineered a lot of things.

    Another interesting and controversial topic.
    Last edited by shiang; 10-05-12 at 02:59 PM.
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    Re: Which type of judges would support human cloning?

    Quote Originally Posted by Pinkie View Post
    I have no idea why you believe my post was nonresponsive, dear.

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    You always make statements that arent about the topic to enable you to talk to yourself you obviously like that....and you can disagree thats fine thats what these threads are for....they arent for putting your words in someone elses mouth to enable you to be noticed....make your fonts bigger and brighter pink... that might work...Oh and my wife just said to tell you that you need to go find your own dear if you can...

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