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    Re: Which type of judges would support human cloning?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rainman05 View Post
    Here's a notion.

    How about to NOT have conservative judges or liberal judges. Just have judges who obey and respect the law! Period.
    I don't give a good goddamn what the law is, that is always open to debate, I care about cloning.

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    Re: Which type of judges would support human cloning?

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    Which sort of judges or Supreme Court justices would be more sympathetic to human cloning, stem cell research, or other sorts of bioethics issues? Liberal judges or conservative judges?

    What do you all think?
    Although neither would be likely in this country, it would probably be the liberals. Generally speaking, conservatives in this country tend to use their religion to guide their politics. It's the same reason we have problems with stem cell research, because "We shouldn't play god".
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    Re: Which type of judges would support human cloning?

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    Although neither would be likely in this country, it would probably be the liberals. Generally speaking, conservatives in this country tend to use their religion to guide their politics. It's the same reason we have problems with stem cell research, because "We shouldn't play god".
    I like to keep my religion and my politics separate. You know, like the founding fathers would have wanted.

    Why do you think liberals would oppose cloning?

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    Re: Which type of judges would support human cloning?

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    I like to keep my religion and my politics separate. You know, like the founding fathers would have wanted.

    Why do you think liberals would oppose cloning?
    Honestly I don't know, I guess just by looking at similar cases such as stem cell research. I figure if our politicians won't support something like that, something that could fundamentally change the world and end most diseases, then they probably won't support cloning.
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    Re: Which type of judges would support human cloning?

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    Honestly I don't know, I guess just by looking at similar cases such as stem cell research. I figure if our politicians won't support something like that, something that could fundamentally change the world and end most diseases, then they probably won't support cloning.
    Liberals, as far as I understand it, tend to support stem cell research.

    On that subject, I cannot think of anything more ridiculous than right wing opposition to fetal stem cell research. I mean, I they don go to research they literally get thrown away. So it's cool with them to toss fetal stem cells in the garbage, but not use them for life saving research??

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    Re: Which type of judges would support human cloning?

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    I don't give a good goddamn what the law is, that is always open to debate, I care about cloning.
    Scientists should say that... and the law should change according to what the scientific community says. And then the judges uphold that law.

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    Re: Which type of judges would support human cloning?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rainman05 View Post
    Scientists should say that... and the law should change according to what the scientific community says. And then the judges uphold that law.
    While we're at it, how about throw world peace in with that list of unrealistic aspirations?

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    Re: Which type of judges would support human cloning?

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    While we're at it, how about throw world peace in with that list of unrealistic aspirations?
    I'm pretty sure this is isn't miss america. But to have laws change in accordance to the science of things... is not just reasonable to expect, but also logical.

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    Re: Which type of judges would support human cloning?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rainman05 View Post
    I'm pretty sure this is isn't miss america. But to have laws change in accordance to the science of things... is not just reasonable to expect, but also logical.
    That is a nice thought but unrealistic, in my correct opinion.
    Look, we all know what the political climate is like, with the "culture wars" and all that. It is clear that once scientists are gettin close to growing replacement human organs and other therapeutic cloning procedures, the right wing WILL ban it. We have a Cour that is tipping conservative now, and would no doubt uphold such a ban (although Roberts has shown himself to be a good jurist, I am not comfortable withy the balance of the Court these days). And Scalia and Thomas are older than dirt, same with Ginsberg. Hopefully Obama in his next term will get a chance to replace all three (I wish only for heir voluntary retirement, of course).

    I shudder to think what havoc a SCOTUS packed wih young right wingers will wreak on medical science over the next generation, as incalculably importan scienctific advancements like cloning butt up against dark age American religious sensibilities.

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    Re: Which type of judges would support human cloning?

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    Liberals, as far as I understand it, tend to support stem cell research.

    On that subject, I cannot think of anything more ridiculous than right wing opposition to fetal stem cell research. I mean, I they don go to research they literally get thrown away. So it's cool with them to toss fetal stem cells in the garbage, but not use them for life saving research??
    Precisely. My friend got paralyzed in a motorcycle accident. I had a conversation with him about this very same topic. Stem cell research has shown huge promise in being able to reverse paralyzation, but out of moral grounds we've banned it. I'd like to see us ease human suffering, but maybe that's just me.
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