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    Re: Which type of judges would support human cloning?

    Quote Originally Posted by wolfman24 View Post
    I accept the idea about organs. Your description seems plausible. But I guess I did not make myself clear. I was not refering to organs but to limbs, sex organs, and the like. this would require a harvestable human. I also agree that it would be a waste of time. At some point the technology will exist to "duplicate" human tissue and use synthetic parts for limbs.

    I doubt we will ever (yes I know never say never) have the ability to replace the human brain.

    BTW I am for the most part agreeing with you!
    I find the subject to be quite facinating. I am amazed constantly by all the new tecniques and technology the comes out of the biotech field. Everyday its something new. Its a bit faster than my field at the moment thats for sure. If I didnt have a fear of blood or needles I would be mucking about in a lab somewhere. The really interesting part is were they are combining technologies and making the beginings of cybernetic implants. Bleeding edge scifi stuff. I am looking at non invasive thought controls for fine attitude position adjustment for spacecraft to help simplifiy the control sceme, and for remote drone control. The real kicker is a lot of this stuff is now on the shelf so to speak.
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    Re: Which type of judges would support human cloning?

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    By your logic those who are genetically "undesirable" should not be allowed to breed, right?
    Meaningless strawman. A comparable situation would be a doctor performing IVF for a couple where both parents are known carriers of Tay Sachs. The government cannot reasonably prevent two people two from having sex. It damn well can prevent doctors from knowingly performing treatments that are harmful.

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    Re: Which type of judges would support human cloning?

    how in the hell does on group stem cell research with cloning? LMAO
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    Re: Which type of judges would support human cloning?

    Quote Originally Posted by wolfman24 View Post
    I accept the idea about organs. Your description seems plausible. But I guess I did not make myself clear. I was not refering to organs but to limbs, sex organs, and the like. this would require a harvestable human. I also agree that it would be a waste of time. At some point the technology will exist to "duplicate" human tissue and use synthetic parts for limbs.

    I doubt we will ever (yes I know never say never) have the ability to replace the human brain.

    BTW I am for the most part agreeing with you!

    This is the hollywood fearmongering BS I can't stand. There are people walking around right now with cloned bladders. On the reproductive cloning front, we can't even get viable primate clones. Harvesting people for organs happens today, but using Chinese convicts not clones. You might as well argue against building robots because of they will take over the world like in the matrix.

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    Re: Which type of judges would support human cloning?

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    I find the subject to be quite facinating. I am amazed constantly by all the new tecniques and technology the comes out of the biotech field. Everyday its something new. Its a bit faster than my field at the moment thats for sure. If I didnt have a fear of blood or needles I would be mucking about in a lab somewhere. The really interesting part is were they are combining technologies and making the beginings of cybernetic implants. Bleeding edge scifi stuff. I am looking at non invasive thought controls for fine attitude position adjustment for spacecraft to help simplifiy the control sceme, and for remote drone control. The real kicker is a lot of this stuff is now on the shelf so to speak.
    YOu and me both. Its just fascinating so long as you understand the real science behind it.
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    Re: Which type of judges would support human cloning?

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    Meaningless strawman. A comparable situation would be a doctor performing IVF for a couple where both parents are known carriers of Tay Sachs. The government cannot reasonably prevent two people two from having sex. It damn well can prevent doctors from knowingly performing treatments that are harmful.
    It's not a straw man, you are simply being logically inconsistent. It shouldn't do either.

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    Re: Which type of judges would support human cloning?

    Quote Originally Posted by shiang View Post
    Well everyone of your cells has all the dna information to make the entire you. However most cells only have a portion of that DNA active so heart cells only make heart cells, lung cells only make lung cells. I have no clue how that actually works but thats what I hear. I agree to be able to grow stem cells and control which parts of the DNA activate is very challenging.

    To grow entier humans to harvest parts crosses even my moral boundaries, hibernated or not, and I'm a fairly open minded person. Right now you have to have no moral compass what-so-ever to think that's acceptable.
    In 1972 I joined the association for the proper application of science. Our main objective was to adamently oppose the use of cloning for reproducing "famous" humans or the harvesting of human clones. I have never once waivered from that. We support stem cell research and simliar studies but when it comes to harvesting cloned humans or animals for that matter my answer is NO. I was surprised alittle by a survey recently that said that 78% of academic scientists support this position. Why so low?
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    Re: Which type of judges would support human cloning?

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective-J View Post
    how in the hell does on group stem cell research with cloning? LMAO
    ???? what does this say I could not understand it.
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    Re: Which type of judges would support human cloning?

    Quote Originally Posted by wolfman24 View Post
    In 1972 I joined the association for the proper application of science. Our main objective was to adamently oppose the use of cloning for reproducing "famous" humans or the harvesting of human clones. I have never once waivered from that. We support stem cell research and simliar studies but when it comes to harvesting cloned humans or animals for that matter my answer is NO. I was surprised alittle by a survey recently that said that 78% of academic scientists support this position. Why so low?
    Caring more about the life of an animal than the life of a human is morally repugnant.

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    Re: Which type of judges would support human cloning?

    Quote Originally Posted by wolfman24 View Post
    ???? what does this say I could not understand it.
    LOL!


    me neither, I dont know what I did.

    it should say:


    how in the hell do you group stem cell research with cloning a human being.
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