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    Re: Which type of judges would support human cloning?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    Maybe. I really have no respect for their opinion since they lack a fundamental understanding of genetics.
    Perhaps you should study ecology, agricultural dependence and sustainability.

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    Re: Which type of judges would support human cloning?

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    I suppose you also want to ban older people from having kids while you're at it? They have a higher rate of problems.

    The bottom line is it is none of your business to decide what level of risk is acceptable.
    The frequency of birth defects in cloned animals far outstrips any influence from the age factor in humans. It is entirely the business of society to decide what risks are acceptable, that is entire purpose of medical ethics. Allowing individuals to make poor choices regarding the potential health of their children is entirely different from doctors deliberately taking actions known to be harmful. Medical professionals are held to a much higher standard than the common citizen.

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    Re: Which type of judges would support human cloning?

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    It's only an "issue" to wing nuts, religious extremists, and other assorted nanny state bedwetters.
    No. In fact Desmond Morris talks about some of the issues in The Human Zoo where he details that our technical development has outpaced our ability to cope with the changes socially.

    A whole raft of issues present themselves with the perfection of human cloning. Can we grow clones to harvest organs? Will they be treated to human law in it's fullness? Is it okay to make a few changes while we're at it (body form and function)? Where do we draw the line between human and lab grown animal, do we draw a line? Do clones have inheritance?

    Just a small subset of the large bag of questions that we are unprepared to answer.

    But, on the plus side, maybe they will be able to grow you a brain to replace that defective partisan machine you've got.

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    Re: Which type of judges would support human cloning?

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    The frequency of birth defects in cloned animals far outstrips any influence from the age factor in humans. It is entirely the business of society to decide what risks are acceptable, that is entire purpose of medical ethics. Allowing individuals to make poor choices regarding the potential health of their children is entirely different from doctors deliberately taking actions known to be harmful. Medical professionals are held to a much higher standard than the common citizen.
    The classic liberal nanny state justification: people are too stupid to know what is in their own interest.

    I guess there are some liberals who want to ban cloning after all.

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    Re: Which type of judges would support human cloning?

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    No. In fact Desmond Morris talks about some of the issues in The Human Zoo where he details that our technical development has outpaced our ability to cope with the changes socially.

    A whole raft of issues present themselves with the perfection of human cloning. Can we grow clones to harvest organs? Will they be treated to human law in it's fullness? Is it okay to make a few changes while we're at it (body form and function)? Where do we draw the line between human and lab grown animal, do we draw a line? Do clones have inheritance?

    Just a small subset of the large bag of questions that we are unprepared to answer.

    But, on the plus side, maybe they will be able to grow you a brain to replace that defective partisan machine you've got.
    Sounds like you have a lot of irrational hang ups you need to overcome, to me.

    Why would a clone not be treated exactly like a human being?
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    Re: Which type of judges would support human cloning?

    lol you know people are so illogical

    It's ok to develop nuclear weapons but not ok to clone people or fund stem cell research.
    One learns more by listening than talking.

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    Re: Which type of judges would support human cloning?

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    The classic liberal nanny state justification: people are too stupid to know what is in their own interest.

    I guess there are some liberals who want to ban cloning after all.
    The clone has no choice in their creation and it is they who will suffer from the mistake of another. That is not personal choice, you are condoning the deliberate victimization of the innocent by someone who fully understand the consequences of their actions.

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    Re: Which type of judges would support human cloning?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Perhaps you should study ecology, agricultural dependence and sustainability.
    Genetic modification is just a technique like welding or riveting. You can use it to make good products or bad products depending on the circumstances and design. Some GM products are harmful and some aren't. You need to do specific research on the organism in question if you want an answer, not simply saying "frankenfoods are evil".

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    Re: Which type of judges would support human cloning?

    Quote Originally Posted by wolfman24 View Post
    I don't want to get into an argument. It would not matter if he did the result would not be HIM. Even if he wanted to live forever, the clone would not be him. They could teach him once he was old enough to think the same, act the same and walk and talk the same but it still would not be HIM. There are too many variable which would effect the equation. the age thing is the largest of them all. Clones don't come out as adults they come out as tiny babies.

    As your /// commnent of course there is.
    O, no argument here. I can just easily picture some Howard Hughes type thinking such a baby is the "ultimate trophy".

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    Re: Which type of judges would support human cloning?

    Quote Originally Posted by wolfman24 View Post
    Thats what I thought. I doubt that this would past muster in our society it would be akin to the abortion debate.
    O, now c'mon. They scrape inside your cheek and grow a replacement ear for you on a mouse, and you think anyone will oppose this?

    I can't picture the RCC showing for that argument even, unless they drug out the old "slippery slope" canard.

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