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    Re: What do you believe is the chief role of government?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jredbaron96 View Post
    To promote stability, unity, and cupcakes.
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    Re: What do you believe is the chief role of government?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    The main role of governance is to protect the rights of the people.

    In the United States, this is enshrined in the Constitution, which is governments most highly enshrined duty.



    They both sort of said the same thing.
    Well, I don't agree that they said the same thing... Jim asked - "Do you believe there is a fundamental difference between the two of you as to how you view the mission of the federal govt.?" Obama answered: "I definitely think there are differences..." Was he (Obama) talking about fundamental differences or just in general? To be fair, he didn't really specify. Obama said the first role is to keep America safe and then added "but..." He went on to talk about the government (federal govt.) helping to open up opportunity and create "ladders of opportunity" where the American people can succeed..... By the way, I believe in equal opportunity, just not equality of OUTCOME, but let's put that aside... He did mention freedom being important and then said "but" again. To me, Obama was vague and shifty in his response - not believable enough for my taste. I'll be frank - trying to analyze his responses/debating style is kind of driving me crazy, as there were a lot of "yes, buts..." Romney nailed HIS response, which is where I was coming from in starting this thread....

    Look, I am only questioning Obama's philosophy here, NOT his integrity. I believe the man really does care - I just don't care for his POLICIES....

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    Re: What do you believe is the chief role of government?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    The role of government is to combine a bunch of separate entities into one unified group.
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    Re: What do you believe is the chief role of government?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mickey Shane View Post
    I prefer muffins.

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    Re: What do you believe is the chief role of government?

    I see government as being the vehicle for balancing the needs of the group against the needs of the individual.
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    Re: What do you believe is the chief role of government?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nightrider View Post
    It was asked in the debate last night: What is the chief role of government?

    Obama said government's main role is to keep America safe...

    Romney said government's #1 responsibility is to uphold the constitution.

    I agree with Romney - Obama's answer (if you read between the lines) is based on giving the federal government more power and control.... The constitution is about giving more power and control to the people. After all, this is our country, not the politicians'... Obama failed the test, imo.

    Anyway, what do you think?
    You seem to be asking two different questions here.

    Are you asking what is the chief role of any government? Or are you asking what is the chief role of the United States' government.

    Those are two very different questions after all.

    Besides, it's entirely possible to use the government to keep America safe under the tenets of the U.S. Constitution. Those are not necessarily two mutually exclusive goals.
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    Re: What do you believe is the chief role of government?

    Quote Originally Posted by Viktyr Gehrig View Post
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    Re: What do you believe is the chief role of government?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    I see government as being the vehicle for balancing the needs of the group against the needs of the individual.
    collectivist for the good of all people. "Ask not what your country can do for you ask what you can do for your country". the theme of the Constititution.
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    Re: What do you believe is the chief role of government?

    Quote Originally Posted by wolfman24 View Post
    How is the Constitution NOT a governing document. It is THE governing document of this country. Everything else is based on it. Any 9th grader can tell you that. It is a Constitution and therefore by definition a governing document because a CONSTITUTION explains how and by what powers the government operates.

    Or are you one of the ill informed minority that thing the Federal Papers rule this country? Or maybe the Bible?

    So sad
    You are treating the Constitution exactly how Fundamentalists treat the Bible. No matter what the political bullies try to force us to accept as a substitute for an active and effective check by the people on their own government, the Constitutionalists' eternally binding obstructive document was merely a start-up plan to be superseded by legislation based on real-life consequences of this original but temporary legislation. It's as if whoever first built computers had been tied and bound by a start-up plan saying that they would only be used for secretarial work and had to submit any new applications to a Supreme Court tribunal or a long drawn out amendment process. Those who credit everything we the people have done by ourselves to this obsolete and unnecessary sacred text are leading us to a national collapse, because this 18th Century blueprint for oligarchy has always been a drag on our political maturity. Supreme things belong in heaven, not under the control of those who want to make themselves gods on earth.
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    Re: What do you believe is the chief role of government?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jredbaron96 View Post
    To promote stability, unity, and cupcakes.
    More like a cup of Let Them Eat Cake. The Founding Fathers, whom Constitutionalists treat like the Twelve Apostles, were really wannabe aristocrats who resented being ruled over by British aristocrats but loved aristocracy itself.
    On the outside, trickling down on the insiders.
    We won't live free until the 1% live in fear.
    Hey, richboys! Imagine the boot of democracy stomping on your faces, forever.

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