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    Re: If you were voting for Obama did the debate change your mind?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Yeah... Tell me all about states rights after he tries with congressionall republicans to push through federal amendments on gay marriage and abortion.
    Don't drink the KoolAid. Gay marriage and abortion are both states rights issues now, I don't expect that to change. Neither is really a hot button issue for me since I'm not gay and my wife had her tubes tied after our son way born. Regardless these issues are scare tactics used by he left and nothing more.

    BTW I was looking in to laws on common law marriage in Alabama a few weeks ago (now THAT is so strange marriage law). You can kind of "accidentally" get married there but you have to get a "real" divorce. But there is a federal provision that compels other states to recognize a common law marriage as ligitimate even if those states have no such laws. I wonder if/when that provision will be applied to gay marriage?

    See, not all conservatives (even us Christian ones) are hell bent on ending gay marriage or abortion. Fornmany of us it's something we would rather people didn't do but we're not willing to legislate it. Once again the left assumes we want to push our values on everybody since they do.

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    Re: If you were voting for Obama did the debate change your mind?

    Quote Originally Posted by tech30528 View Post
    Don't drink the KoolAid. Gay marriage and abortion are both states rights issues now, I don't expect that to change. Neither is really a hot button issue for me since I'm not gay and my wife had her tubes tied after our son way born. Regardless these issues are scare tactics used by he left and nothing more.

    BTW I was looking in to laws on common law marriage in Alabama a few weeks ago (now THAT is so strange marriage law). You can kind of "accidentally" get married there but you have to get a "real" divorce. But there is a federal provision that compels other states to recognize a common law marriage as ligitimate even if those states have no such laws. I wonder if/when that provision will be applied to gay marriage?

    See, not all conservatives (even us Christian ones) are hell bent on ending gay marriage or abortion. Fornmany of us it's something we would rather people didn't do but we're not willing to legislate it. Once again the left assumes we want to push our values on everybody since they do.
    Mitt Romney has stated at one point or another that he would support a federal amendment to ban gay marriage

    He also says he would appoint justices and give full support to an overturn of Roe V Wade.



    As usual he dances around these subjects and I believe what he said as governor, that he supports a womens right to choose...

    But as President I'm worried about him having to work with congressional republicans on these social issues because he has to pay back the religious right for their support.

    It's like any other support base.

    "Mr. President, it's been 4 years and you want to be re-elected, what have you done for us?"

    That's the reality.

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    Re: If you were voting for Obama did the debate change your mind?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Mitt Romney has stated at one point or another that he would support a federal amendment to ban gay marriage

    He also says he would appoint justices and give full support to an overturn of Roe V Wade.



    As usual he dances around these subjects and I believe what he said as governor, that he supports a womens right to choose...

    But as President I'm worried about him having to work with congressional republicans on these social issues because he has to pay back the religious right for their support.

    It's like any other support base.

    "Mr. President, it's been 4 years and you want to be re-elected, what have you done for us?"

    That's the reality.
    Yes, he'll say these things to pander to the right, but such a bill would have to clear both houses before he could sign it. "I would support" and "I will push for" are too different things. And even as a conservative I would not support a ban on either abortion or gay marriage. Pretty sure I'm not alone here. And when the subject of a gay marriage ban came up in a referendum vote in California of all places it was passed by the people and then overturned on the federal level as being unconstitutional.
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    Re: If you were voting for Obama did the debate change your mind?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Barbarian View Post
    To me that is kinda a silly question, IMO the debates are not about winning over the other side they are about swaying the vote of the independents.


    Those on the hard left .. Nothing will change their mind Just as nothing will change the minds of those on the hard right.


    Those that decide the elections in this country are the moderates, and speaking fairly, in the first debate Romney swung more to his side then Obama did. All polls are showing Romney got quite a boost since the debate.


    2 more to go .. Lets see if he can keep that momentum going.
    Trouble with romney is that once he gets some momentum going he trips

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    Re: If you were voting for Obama did the debate change your mind?

    Hey Navy...it only took you a week to get a second legitimate vote. Congratulations.
    <font size=5><b>Its been several weeks since the Vegas shooting.  Its it still "Too Early" or can we start having the conversation about finally doing something about these mass shootings???​</b></font>

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    Re: If you were voting for Obama did the debate change your mind?

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    What do you think? if you were voting for Obama prior to the debate did you change your mind and will now vote for Romney?
    No, because I've come to the conclusion that I won't be voting "for" Obama in November, I will be voting "against" the divisive, obstructive, uncompromising, hypocritical, uncompassionate, and overly ideological platform/tactics Republicans have employed these past two years, and which I fear will spread to Democrats if the strategy is proven effective this cycle.

    Obama would have to make a more serious showing of incompetence for a debate to change my mind at this point.

    That said, if Romney had run in the primaries on the moderate platform he now appears to be piecing together, I might have voted for him in November. I refuse to vote for somebody who misleads primary voters to get the nomination, however. I find that absolutely repulsive.
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    Re: If you were voting for Obama did the debate change your mind?

    Quote Originally Posted by Krhazy View Post
    I refuse to vote for somebody who misleads primary voters to get the nomination, however. I find that absolutely repulsive.
    Is there an example of a party nominee for President who has not moderated his positions after gaining the nomination?
    Did you watch the 2008 Democratic primary race?

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    Re: If you were voting for Obama did the debate change your mind?

    Quote Originally Posted by H. Lee White View Post
    Is there an example of a party nominee for President who has not moderated his positions after gaining the nomination?
    Did you watch the 2008 Democratic primary race?
    Oh, I agree, there's often a little bit of adjustment, but very few politicians have gone so far as to do complete 180s on what they ran on (or intentionally allowed the public to think they supported) in the primaries. Romney is widely acknowledged, even by conservatives, as one of the worst flip-floppers in recent memory, and I think there is a reason for that.
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