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  • Barack Obama

    15 12.50%
  • Mitt Romney

    98 81.67%
  • It was a draw

    7 5.83%
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Thread: Who Won?

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    Re: Who Won?

    I think you'd better look up "Pyrrhic victory", it's looking more like October Surprise. Here's the surprise - Obama's oration fails when he has to try to defend his record rather than relying on his hopes and dreams.

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    Re: Who Won?

    it cured my insomnia

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    Re: Who Won?

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Honestly last time around I thought he wiped the floor with Palin, but obviously that's not saying much. Ryan will indeed be a much more formidable opponent even if I think half of the stuff that comes out of his mouth is complete BS.
    Whereas everything Biden says is pure gold.

    Sorry dude, anyone who thinks Joe Biden is the height of intelligent speech has no standing to criticize Palin. Lol.

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    Re: Who Won?

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Its universally agreed mitt romney won...because the moderator couldnt control him
    no. romney won. because Obama did not show up
    the moderator was excellent
    he let them have at each other
    hell, he even allowed Obama to have four more minutes of debate time than romney
    i especially like that he repeatedly narrowed the topics, to keep both from going off on tangents
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
    once you're over the hill you begin to pick up speed

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    Re: Who Won?

    Romney ran away with it. I was surprised, and actually warmed up to him. He's so not Bush that it was refreshing. I remember listening to Bush and wondering if I was dreaming or if this was really a potential candidate.
    Caught my attention on their worldview question:
    Romney's view - declaration/constitution
    Obama's view - we have the capacity to use government for so much more
    Couldn't be more clear to me (rhetorically of course, who knows what either will actually do!)

    Biggest worry I have with Republicans these days is pushover/puppet candidates like Bush, or insitutionalized politicans from ages past. Romney appeared to be neither.
    Obama was on the fence the entire time, was a little hard to watch. I like the guy, he delivers great prepeared speeches, but contrasted with Mitt he was the follower to Mitt's lead.

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    Re: Who Won?

    Confirmation bias, I suppose, but I thought Romney came across as sneering and arrogant and disrespectful.

    Obama was flat, but I thought he made no offensive remarks.

    Obama won.

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    Re: Who Won?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Whereas everything Biden says is pure gold.

    Sorry dude, anyone who thinks Joe Biden is the height of intelligent speech has no standing to criticize Palin. Lol.
    Quoted for truth.

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    Re: Who Won?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Whereas everything Biden says is pure gold.

    Sorry dude, anyone who thinks Joe Biden is the height of intelligent speech has no standing to criticize Palin. Lol.
    Yep, straw man alert.
    Last edited by StillBallin75; 10-04-12 at 12:49 PM.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
    - Colonel Paul Yingling

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    Re: Who Won?

    Quote Originally Posted by Pinkie View Post
    Confirmation bias, I suppose, but I thought Romney came across as sneering and arrogant and disrespectful.

    Obama was flat, but I thought he made no offensive remarks.

    Obama won.
    To me Romney came across as aggressive without being offensive, which is probably the best outcome for him.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
    - Colonel Paul Yingling

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    Re: Who Won?

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    Sure and like I said, if people are judging it by looks alone, then they are judging them the wrong way. I judge them differently. /shrug
    Who "won" a presidential debate should be judged based on the effect that it has on the majority of voters, not on the effect it has on you, the individual.

    The majority of voters use superficial measures to decide who won. Ergo, the person who does best in the superficial sense wins the debate. If voters were truly informed on the issues, there would only have been a loser from the debate, and that loser would be the American people.

    Since the American people are content with nonsense, however, we are getting what we (collectively) deserve.
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