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    98 81.67%
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Thread: Who Won?

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    Re: Who Won?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    Romney made better points during the debate. It's just a shame that the facts he used to back them up were largely made up. At least Romney actually responded to comments by his opponent, which Obama did not do. But Romney's responses were mainly to divorce himself from the policies he'd been espousing for months.

    Romney looked better tonight. He won't look as good once the fact checkers get done with him.
    This is why I can't agree with everyone who says Romney "won" the debate. By pure looks alone, he was certainly better. Obama was exceedingly disappointing when it came to assertiveness and clarity. However, Romney's content was incredibly sub par, particularly since it was just dishonesty and flip flopping as usual. That, to me, is not a win and I think the people who say it is a win are judging debates the wrong way.

    At the same time, Obama didn't pull out a win either. Both won and lost in certain areas.

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    Re: Who Won?

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    By pure looks alone, he was certainly better.
    As Kennedy proved in the very first televised presidential debate, that's all that matters.

    You can get people to believe a whole load of bull**** if you just look good and confident while saying it.
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    Re: Who Won?

    Quote Originally Posted by soccerboy22 View Post
    Romney by the inch of the football that we all want just over first down marker to get a first down.
    This is not a silly game.
    Our nation is at "decision time".
    Are we to go forward into the future OR are we to regress into the past.
    This is what I think it is.
    And, both Obama and Romney represent the past, both are conservative, but, Obama less so, which is good.

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    Re: Who Won?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dooble View Post
    The President, or Mitt Romney?
    Mitt did. I think he had a much lower threshold.

    All I kept thinking was the Mitt apparently will lower taxes, increase spending to education/military/Medicare, keep our safety nets intact, and balance the budget by kicking Big Bird off the air.
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    Re: Who Won?

    These debates are never won on the merits of the candidates' respective arguments, but rather their rhetoric and stage performance and style points. It's just one of those situations where perception wins out and nobody gives a damn about reality. But historically speaking debates have had little impact on the outcomes of elections, so I'm not sure how big a deal it really is.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: Who Won?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dooble View Post
    The President, or Mitt Romney?
    I think Barack Obama won, because Mitt Romney was just shooting from the hip, contradicting himself half the time, only to score points. But politics is not a logical but an emotional game, so who knows this may work for him. The old saying is true, every nation deserves the government they elect. When is the freedom of international travel going to be restored again in America?

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    Re: Who Won?

    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    Nah, he hates Big Bird so bad he's gonna pull funding. Big Bird will starve and be digging into Oscar's garbage can for scraps before you know it.
    Nah...he loves Big Bird. I believe the rhetoric used was that even though he loved Big Bird he doesnt want to borrow billions of dollars from the Chinese and make your grandkids and great grandkids pay it back so that you can have the pleasure of watching Big Bird.

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    Re: Who Won?

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    This is not a silly game.
    Our nation is at "decision time".
    Are we to go forward into the future OR are we to regress into the past.
    This is what I think it is.
    And, both Obama and Romney represent the past, both are conservative, but, Obama less so, which is good.
    I do so wish there was a good old 'real' progressive running. One that would show what they REALLY want. Better yet, I wish there were some 'real' progressives out there creating businesses and employing people using a 'progressive' system and not just bitching about how they cant steal more money from capitalists to pay for their wonderful progressive ideals. You would think with all these proponents of progressive policies we would already actually have such things in place demonstrating how successful they are.

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    Re: Who Won?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    As Kennedy proved in the very first televised presidential debate, that's all that matters.

    You can get people to believe a whole load of bull**** if you just look good and confident while saying it.
    Sure and like I said, if people are judging it by looks alone, then they are judging them the wrong way. I judge them differently. /shrug

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    Re: Who Won?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dooble View Post
    The President, or Mitt Romney?
    I won. I always win.
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