View Poll Results: For those in the US, what level of citizenship do you most identify yourself with?

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  • I am an American citizen first and a state citizen second

    11 55.00%
  • I am a state citizen first and an American citizen second

    2 10.00%
  • I have equal pride in my state and the nation

    3 15.00%
  • I identify myself as a member of the local community or county over state or federal

    0 0%
  • I am a citizen of the world!

    4 20.00%
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Thread: State vs Federal citizenship

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    State vs Federal citizenship

    For those that live in the US, on what level of organization in the US do you most sociopolitically identify yourself? Do you have more pride in your nation, your state, or local community?

    EDIT: As an expanded discussion, how important do you think it is to be politically or socially engaged on the state or local level?
    Last edited by gavinfielder; 10-02-12 at 11:34 PM.
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    Re: State vs Federal citizenship

    I have more pride in my nation then anything else. I honestly don't give a crap about my state(Georgia), nor my community... or even my college football team.

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    Re: State vs Federal citizenship

    I don't even live in a state. I live in a District and am a second class citizen because of it. But even when I was a New Yorker, I was American first.
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    Easily an American citizen first, having moved around my whole life and being in the military there's naturally no other choice. I'd like to say a citizen of the world but that just isn't true.

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    Re: State vs Federal citizenship

    I've lived in 3 states and one US territory but have been an American everywhere. American citizenship evokes a sense of patriotism and national identity. State citizenship to me is really about what voting district do I belong for the moment, state sales tax vs. state income tax and regional cultural nuances that I appreciate and celebrate as aspects of the American experience even in states I only visit or watch on the Travel Channel but have never lived.
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    Re: State vs Federal citizenship

    I'm an American first, last, and only.

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    Re: State vs Federal citizenship

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    I'm an American first, last, and only.
    I thought you planned on leaving the country?
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    Re: State vs Federal citizenship

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I thought you planned on leaving the country?
    Unfortunately, that appears to be less and less of an option, the more I look into it. Apparently, unless something changes in the near future, you folks are stuck with me for at least a while.

    Now, as for my response.... I said American, which to me means something very different than it does to most people. My allegiance is to a nation that once was and hopefully will be again, not the one I live in today.

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    Re: State vs Federal citizenship

    American 1st, Maryland is way too taxing and hard on gun owners.
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    no. You cannot lose rights you do not have in the first place. There is no such thing as the right to have any weapon of your choice regardless of any other consideration. It simply does not exist.

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    Re: State vs Federal citizenship

    I am both. I dealy love my home state but I love my country as well. Beyond that I have moved around to much to have real community and most of my extended family is dead. So my next loyalty would be to my ancestry.
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