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    Re: Academia vs Joe Sixpack

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    Smart people, obviously. We didn't get to where we are now by having idiots in positions of power.
    Academics are not nessecarrily smart. I have found them to be as narrow minded and inflexable as anyone.
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    Re: Academia vs Joe Sixpack

    Quote Originally Posted by RadicalModerate View Post
    This thread makes me lol. Joe Spaghetti-Stain is the same doofus who every four or eight years switches from defense of the status quo to opposition to it when nothing really ever changes. He's the brain-dead moron who gets a hard on from Romney or Obama's empty platitudes and glittering generalities.

    I understand the point that the intellectual elite aren't equipped to run the country solo, but the main point should be those who can collect, organize and analyze the data should be the ones providing the data to the average cheeze-whiz drinkin' Joe to make a (hopefully) somewhat informed decision.
    With the academons in charge, we'd all wind up getting data raped.
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    Re: Academia vs Joe Sixpack

    Quote Originally Posted by PrometheusBound View Post
    With the academons in charge, we'd all wind up getting data raped.
    Ah, yes, I see, you make very good points.

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    Re: Academia vs Joe Sixpack

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    One semester I took 18, grad (including a med lab, gm for crops), UF, and left 2-3 weeks early to speak in Europe.
    You went to "jorts U" *highfive*
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    Re: Academia vs Joe Sixpack

    He doesn't look like a phd.

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    Re: Academia vs Joe Sixpack

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    And yet many tenured academics get their position by politics, who they know, or merely by keeping their head down low and supporting the right political department head. My wife is an English professor. I have the pleasure of meeting with their happy cohort on occasion. Most of them...I wouldnt trust with deciding anything more important than sock color.

    We cant merely assume that the professor in a typical Ivy league setting is any more or less 'intelligent' than Joe Six Pack. At best, we can assume they have been presented academic opportunities in a very specific field of study and capitalized on it in a purely academic setting. Whether that knowledge and experience translates to practical use or the ability to govern...thats a helluva stretch.

    Its not a knock on academics. I have an uncle who is an engineer. Dood cant carry on a conversation with common folk...thinks on a different plane...think a less geeky version of the Sheldon character from The Big Bang Theory. A close in-law was a literal rocket scientist. Couldnt fix a car, change oil, repair anything around the house and frankly wasnt blessed with 'common sense'. At the same time...one of the smartest men I know is a blue collar machinist.

    Picking one or the other is rather silly IMO. I'd bet we could find 535 intelligent and qualified academics. I'm also certain we could find 535 average Joes.
    I know more than a few scientists who cant fix their own stuff yet help design cutting edge equipment and come with inovative concepts, thats why they got me those like me, engineers. Their the scientists, I am the surgeon. You could look in a directory and I think you could find some fairly qualified people very easily, who could step up and perform reasonably well regardless whether or not they academics.
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    Re: Academia vs Joe Sixpack

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    He doesn't look like a phd.

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    Haha! I'm just joking man. I went to FSU for my undergrad...it's an automatic reaction when someone states they are a UF grad.
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    Re: Academia vs Joe Sixpack

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    Civil service does governance, and it does it generally very well.



    I do disagree. The common man may be more wise about himself, but he is not wise about his collective.
    I disagree veheminately as I am subject to that governace and would love to hang every damn near every cival servant I have ever come accross, literally. Some of what I've been subjected and being subjected to, is bat**** insane. Hate is not near a strong enough word to describe my feelings about the bueracracy that I am subject to. Cival servants for the most part suck, big time, and in my mind have earned themselves a rope around their necks. If I was king for a day I would fire EVERY SINGLE ONE, and then run em out the country. If only I was king for a day.
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    Re: Academia vs Joe Sixpack

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    So I will cease to be a member of academia when I graduate and start practicing law? And then perhaps my "book learning" will no longer be demonized? I don't think most of this discussion shares your notion that only people who still study or work at a school comprise academia.

    But if that is so, then why would you want either academics or sixpacks in government? Why not draw from the well educated and practically experienced group that came out of academia and apply their skills?
    If these over-respected phonies were of any use, they would teach the public, or at least the dumbed-down graduates they set up for influential positions in the media, the correct use of the word comprise (also oxymoron and many other words misused by those who pretend to be educated). Unlike the way you and others in this thread use it, the subject of comprise is the unity, while the object is its parts. It is used like includes, except that it takes in all the parts comprehensively, which is a related word. So if these anti-social educators had been fulfilling their function in society, you and others would have written "your notion that academia comprises only people who still study or work at school"
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    Re: Academia vs Joe Sixpack

    Quote Originally Posted by PrometheusBound View Post
    Academentia is not the intelligentsia. Its inmates are more like the corrupt and totalitarian cardinals of the Middle Ages and Spanish Inquisition, as opposed to saints such as Thomas Aquinas, Francis of Assisi and Joan of Arc. They spend their formative years in unnatural living conditions, always isolated from reality. The resulting pathetic and passive personalities lead them to conform to seductive but simplistic fads. After years of this mental rape room, the academented wind up narrow-minded, intolerant, and stubbornly resistant to changing when results don't come out the way their theories tell them they should.
    This is often times what stupid people say to feel better about themselves.
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