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    Re: Academia vs Joe Sixpack

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    I always liked how she reached into a tree and grabbed a bear cub right under the nose of its mother while singing about how ignorant the white man is. There is nothing ignorant about what she did there at all.
    I didn't use to believe this, but I am becoming more and more convinced that the unrealistic wildlife the treehuggers saw in cartoons when children permanently sets their viewpoints even after they should have grown up. They think of the vicious and unproductive jungle as a petting zoo. Children should be shown movies like Apocalypto instead. But even in that movie, only the bad guys get exposed to what the "rainforest, habitat, pristine paradise " chaotic nightmare is really like.
    On the outside, trickling down on the insiders.
    We won't live free until the 1% live in fear.
    Hey, richboys! Imagine the boot of democracy stomping on your faces, forever.

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    Re: Academia vs Joe Sixpack

    Quote Originally Posted by wolfman24 View Post
    This makes absolutely no sense at all. the left works for the right? Uhuh!
    It is if you believe in minions.

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    Re: Academia vs Joe Sixpack

    Democracy by lot rather than ballot isn't a new concept I kinda like what we could do with it, in a bicameral system we could divide everyone up and represent them randomly in one house and keep the other elected.

    For example it doeant have to be 100% random, but if 50% of our people are women then half our selections are women if 20% are seniors then we pick 20% out of our random pool of seniors etc.

    The biggest problem is you have to sequester them like jurors on an important trial for thier entire term, and you cannot let them know too far in advance or they would be influenced by parties trying to get at them.

    It isn't a perfect idea, but I think it could be made to work.

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    Re: Academia vs Joe Sixpack

    Quote Originally Posted by wolfman24 View Post
    This makes absolutely no sense at all. the left works for the right? Uhuh!
    Politics is nothing but a food fight at a prep school. It doesn't make sense that only one faction of the guillotine-fodder aristocracy hates the rest of us. They only argue over which is the better method to whiz on the masses as they sit on top of the wall--trickling or spraying? They are not afraid of what happened to Humpty Dumpty.
    On the outside, trickling down on the insiders.
    We won't live free until the 1% live in fear.
    Hey, richboys! Imagine the boot of democracy stomping on your faces, forever.

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    Re: Academia vs Joe Sixpack

    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalAvenger View Post
    And we must not forget to read "Ragged Dick".
    Today Horatio Alger would advocate a hero who sucked his thumb in college, working without pay and living like a 12-year-old because he was afraid to grow up. A true criticism of his 19th Century heroes that you never hear is that all they did was work hard and conform, having talent being irrelevant to promotion. So we get people brown-nosing into positions where only talent matters and they inevitably wreck everything because of their natural insufficiency, which no hard work, aggressiveness, or attractive personality can change. No one is wise enough to point out that lack of natural talent makes cheating necessary. That drives the overpromoted brown-noses into it more than greed or dishonesty does. But the people at the very top, in a position to define what virtue is, got handed their positions by their Daddies and that's why they demand a society not based on natural talent, but based on birth and brown-nosing to birth rather than based on worth.

    Tying this into the topic, the professors are the worst case of people developing in childish conditions. This made them look on their own professors as infallible father figures. When they themselves become professors, they childishly and slavishly followed the academic leaders. When they become top academics,they only follow fads. So what kind of leaders would we get from people who never matured and only when it was too late tried to learn to think for themselves? Their opinions when invading government are bound to be unrealistic, impractical, biased, and utopian, which disqualifies them from even being a small part of government.
    On the outside, trickling down on the insiders.
    We won't live free until the 1% live in fear.
    Hey, richboys! Imagine the boot of democracy stomping on your faces, forever.

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    Re: Academia vs Joe Sixpack

    Quote Originally Posted by Hare View Post
    A recent quip by a fellow poster here inspired me to create this poll. Bear with me, while it may seem patently absurd to some, it is strictly for my own amusement and serves only as a sociopolitical barometer of sorts. Would you rather our governing body be comprised of the faculty of various Ivy league and highly accredited academic institutions (i.e. Harvard, MIT, Stanford etc.) or the first 535 individuals selected at random from your local phonebook?
    Sorry the average person is pretty retarded I wouldn't trust them with anything complicated and important. Dumb/average people have a place though and they have equal rights, some jobs require dumb people, and sometimes it's not a good thing to be too smart.
    One learns more by listening than talking.

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    Re: Academia vs Joe Sixpack

    Quote Originally Posted by PrometheusBound View Post
    Today Horatio Alger would advocate a hero who sucked his thumb in college, working without pay and living like a 12-year-old because he was afraid to grow up. A true criticism of his 19th Century heroes that you never hear is that all they did was work hard and conform, having talent being irrelevant to promotion. So we get people brown-nosing into positions where only talent matters and they inevitably wreck everything because of their natural insufficiency, which no hard work, aggressiveness, or attractive personality can change. No one is wise enough to point out that lack of natural talent makes cheating necessary. That drives the overpromoted brown-noses into it more than greed or dishonesty does. But the people at the very top, in a position to define what virtue is, got handed their positions by their Daddies and that's why they demand a society not based on natural talent, but based on birth and brown-nosing to birth rather than based on worth.

    Tying this into the topic, the professors are the worst case of people developing in childish conditions. This made them look on their own professors as infallible father figures. When they themselves become professors, they childishly and slavishly followed the academic leaders. When they become top academics,they only follow fads. So what kind of leaders would we get from people who never matured and only when it was too late tried to learn to think for themselves? Their opinions when invading government are bound to be unrealistic, impractical, biased, and utopian, which disqualifies them from even being a small part of government.

    WOW! You really had problems in college didn't you?


    My experience was somewhat different, I must say. I had professors who were knowledgeable and communicated the class subject in ways that we could comprehend, I had professors who were knowledgeable yet were unable to teach and I had a couple of profs who followed their political ideology more than the subject they were supposed to be teaching.

    This nonsense that "all college professors are liberal know it alls" is nothing more than garbage. Academics are humans, there are great ones, there are good ones, there are mediocre ones, there are bad ones and there are a few who should not be allowed into a classroom with human students -- but every time I read something like the following: "professors are the worst case of people developing in childish conditions" I know that the person writing such a statement rather obviously did not have a good experience in university, for whatever reason.
    “And I have no doubt that every new example will succeed, as every past one has done, in shewing that religion & Govt will both exist in greater purity, the less they are mixed together.”
    ~ James Madison, letter to Edward Livingston, July 10, 1822

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    Re: Academia vs Joe Sixpack

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    WOW! You really had problems in college didn't you?


    My experience was somewhat different, I must say. I had professors who were knowledgeable and communicated the class subject in ways that we could comprehend, I had professors who were knowledgeable yet were unable to teach and I had a couple of profs who followed their political ideology more than the subject they were supposed to be teaching.

    This nonsense that "all college professors are liberal know it alls" is nothing more than garbage. Academics are humans, there are great ones, there are good ones, there are mediocre ones, there are bad ones and there are a few who should not be allowed into a classroom with human students -- but every time I read something like the following: "professors are the worst case of people developing in childish conditions" I know that the person writing such a statement rather obviously did not have a good experience in university, for whatever reason.
    The whatever reason is probably they didn't attend a university or attended a bad community college (not all CC are bad), which I don't think really counts.
    One learns more by listening than talking.

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    Re: Academia vs Joe Sixpack

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    WOW! You really had problems in college didn't you?


    My experience was somewhat different, I must say. I had professors who were knowledgeable and communicated the class subject in ways that we could comprehend, I had professors who were knowledgeable yet were unable to teach and I had a couple of profs who followed their political ideology more than the subject they were supposed to be teaching.

    This nonsense that "all college professors are liberal know it alls" is nothing more than garbage. Academics are humans, there are great ones, there are good ones, there are mediocre ones, there are bad ones and there are a few who should not be allowed into a classroom with human students -- but every time I read something like the following: "professors are the worst case of people developing in childish conditions" I know that the person writing such a statement rather obviously did not have a good experience in university, for whatever reason.
    Trying to avoid the main issue I have? The university is an obsolete aristocratic institution (the term "prep school" means prepare for college). In a society that needs class mobility in order to survive, one based on worth not birth, this relic of the Middle Ages must be replaced with highly paid professional education.

    The professors not only go through even more years of this childish, depressing, and insulting indentured servitude than their captive students, they also teach in an unnatural atmosphere. Students, desperate for infallible father figures to justify their stunted growth, do not challenge these academics, which isolates them in a mentally incestuous cult with their fellow academics. If the students were paid, the professors would acquire some humility about their sheltered thinking and realize their proper place as educational servants. To promote the present spoiled and conceited ilk to public service can only lead to our domination by theoretical fantasies thought up by those whose academic positions as Masters of Indentured Servitude make them feel the same way about the public.
    On the outside, trickling down on the insiders.
    We won't live free until the 1% live in fear.
    Hey, richboys! Imagine the boot of democracy stomping on your faces, forever.

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    Re: Academia vs Joe Sixpack

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    WOW! You really had problems in college didn't you?


    My experience was somewhat different, I must say. I had professors who were knowledgeable and communicated the class subject in ways that we could comprehend, I had professors who were knowledgeable yet were unable to teach and I had a couple of profs who followed their political ideology more than the subject they were supposed to be teaching.

    This nonsense that "all college professors are liberal know it alls" is nothing more than garbage. Academics are humans, there are great ones, there are good ones, there are mediocre ones, there are bad ones and there are a few who should not be allowed into a classroom with human students -- but every time I read something like the following: "professors are the worst case of people developing in childish conditions" I know that the person writing such a statement rather obviously did not have a good experience in university, for whatever reason.
    Or never went to college and as a result doesn't know about it except what the right wing nuts cakes tell him.

    My experiences were very simlar to yours. College is where I grew up because the atmosphere academic and social gave me the chance to grown out of my singular view of the world into a more expanded view of life.

    College is 40% education and 60% socialization
    "Those who do not learn from history and condemned to relive it".

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