View Poll Results: Do you prefer physical labor to mental? (Assume equal pay.)

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  • I prefer physical labor.

    18 35.29%
  • I prefer physical labor only if my workmates are of similar physique to me.

    3 5.88%
  • I prefer mental labor only if my workmates are of similar mental capacity to me.

    5 9.80%
  • I prefer mental labor.

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    How do you like physical labor for a living?

    I hate work, all kinds of it. I was brought up to look down on it. But I am fascinated and puzzled by it, so I do it when I can, without the knowledge of the people around me. But what is interesting, really, is how closely work is intertwined with our very health. It appears, that the more work we do, the healthier we get. And non-physical labor doesn't help.

    So, now, that most non-physical jobs can be done over the internet outsourced for a petence, how about this for a replacement for those unsustainable liberal social programs.

    Everyone who doesn't have a job or business, would be classified into weight groups, like in sports, and then given physical labor tasks with his/her group-mates. These tasks would include all labor that is physical, such as road maintenance, industrial trash collection, environmental clean-up, construction, transportation loading/off-loading, and so on. The people would be rotated between job types and sites daily, as well as between teams occassionally.

    This would give everyone a healthy body, happy life, and an opportunity to meet new people. This would provide a valuable infrastructure support service, as well as a possible elimination of social program deficits. And I bet this beats retirement and mid-life too.

    So, what would be your opinion?

    In case this sounds communistic, it is not my intent, I am a conservative. But I like looking internationally for ideas and some of those communist countries did manage to make the low segment of society happier with well organized and managed large scale communal physical work. We could introduce it in the US, will eliminate obesity and stress, I bet.

    Would it make sense to sell this to the republican campaign?

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    Re: How do you like physical labor for a living?

    Quote Originally Posted by ab9924 View Post
    I hate work, all kinds of it. I was brought up to look down on it. But I am fascinated and puzzled by it, so I do it when I can, without the knowledge of the people around me. But what is interesting, really, is how closely work is intertwined with our very health. It appears, that the more work we do, the healthier we get. And non-physical labor doesn't help.

    So, now, that most non-physical jobs can be done over the internet outsourced for a petence, how about this for a replacement for those unsustainable liberal social programs.

    Everyone who doesn't have a job or business, would be classified into weight groups, like in sports, and then given physical labor tasks with his/her group-mates. These tasks would include all labor that is physical, such as road maintenance, industrial trash collection, environmental clean-up, construction, transportation loading/off-loading, and so on. The people would be rotated between job types and sites daily, as well as between teams occassionally.

    This would give everyone a healthy body, happy life, and an opportunity to meet new people. This would provide a valuable infrastructure support service, as well as a possible elimination of social program deficits. And I bet this beats retirement and mid-life too.

    So, what would be your opinion?

    In case this sounds communistic, it is not my intent, I am a conservative. But I like looking internationally for ideas and some of those communist countries did manage to make the low segment of society happier with well organized and managed large scale communal physical work. We could introduce it in the US, will eliminate obesity and stress, I bet.

    Would it make sense to sell this to the republican campaign?
    I completely disagree with this proposition. I for one, am a mental labor type. I'm an electrical engineer who prefers to have my head in the clouds designing circuits and electronic devices. I was in the army for 7 years where I mostly did physical labor, which is completely contrary to my nature.

    The important thing in the end is that the worker is happy. For those who enjoy physical labor and a hard day's work, such a thing would be fantastic. For the people like me who thrive under mental duress and physical comfort, long term physical labor is a nightmare.

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    Re: How do you like physical labor for a living?

    definitely prefer a job that requires a bit of both but leans more towards physical labor. It's not as if construction workers and plumbers are robot meatheads, after all. Most jobs involving quote-unquote physical labor will also have some sort of mental or problem-solving aspect to them.
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    Re: How do you like physical labor for a living?

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    I completely disagree with this proposition. I for one, am a mental labor type. I'm an electrical engineer who prefers to have my head in the clouds designing circuits and electronic devices. I was in the army for 7 years where I mostly did physical labor, which is completely contrary to my nature.

    The important thing in the end is that the worker is happy. For those who enjoy physical labor and a hard day's work, such a thing would be fantastic. For the people like me who thrive under mental duress and physical comfort, long term physical labor is a nightmare.

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    The premis of the thread is under the condition that you would be unemployed. (Or long term unemployed.)

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    Re: How do you like physical labor for a living?

    I didn't vote, because there isn't an answer that my response fits into. I like both. I like to read, write, do computer things, and non-manual things. But, I also like to get out and get some fresh air. I do yardwork, we do the hay, clean the barn and other farm tasks all the time. I like to camp, hike, hunt and fish and ride a horse. I think a blend of physical and non-physical things is pretty healthy (for both mind and body) in my case, anyway.
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    Re: How do you like physical labor for a living?

    Rosie1 nailed it for me. But in terms of profession, when I was younger I preferred work that came with a physical labor component. As I grew, less so. Now, I'm almost strictly mental work in profession.

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    Re: How do you like physical labor for a living?

    Too much government control. I'll pass.
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    Re: How do you like physical labor for a living?

    The issue is that I suspect most physical labor as job is bad for your long-term health.

    Posture, wearing out joins, injury, repetitive disorders, the vulnerability to being unable to work should you be injured, the short-duration exertion that is unhealthy, etc. Now, is it worse than a sit-down job when you couple that with no exercise? I don't know. But moderate physical labor type jobs take a toll on the body, they are not a great cardio workout. And often the environment they are in is more hazardous. Painters dealing with paint fumes, brick laying dealing with powdered mortar, and if you do it every day it's hard to follow all safety requirements, wear heavy and hot protection equipment, etc.

    There is a fine line between healthy exercise and exercise that wears your body out faster or puts you at higher risk of injury.

    The issue with the U.S. and various perceived societal ills is not a lack of ideas, it's a lack of follow-through. I meet with people daily who have "great ideas" and the only ones who get anything done are the ones who sacrifice it all, put it all on the line, and dedicate a signficant chunk of their life to succeeding at it in some shape or form. That's what it takes to get things done, a terrific amount of hard work. 99% perspiration, it's the real deal.

    So they can already help themselves and stay happy and active and help their community, they are just not doing it for whatever reason. Forcing them to, not something I'm interested in. Of course, one has to wonder what public schools are teaching if the vast majority of people don't know how to set goals and follow-through, and thrive in the most prosperous and free nation on earth. Always back to those inner city schools eh?
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    Re: How do you like physical labor for a living?

    I prefer physical labor over mental labor but unfortunately my back does not, so it quit on me.

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    Re: How do you like physical labor for a living?

    I love to work, physically or mentally. Give me a garden to dig, or a house to build, and I'm happy. Give me a math problem to solve, and I'm happy. My job is a combination of physical and mental, but if I had to pick between the two, for the amount of stress is induces, I'd pick the physical over the mental stress. I'm conscientious, and I tend to obsess a little too much if I second-guess my ability to look at a patient who has had a change in condition, and make the completely right call, so I tend to err on the side of over-caution.

    At my age, physical labor is getting to be more taxing, admittedly, but I'm still very strong compared to many people my age and stature.
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