View Poll Results: Do you prefer physical labor to mental? (Assume equal pay.)

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  • I prefer physical labor.

    18 35.29%
  • I prefer physical labor only if my workmates are of similar physique to me.

    3 5.88%
  • I prefer mental labor only if my workmates are of similar mental capacity to me.

    5 9.80%
  • I prefer mental labor.

    25 49.02%
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    Re: How do you like physical labor for a living?

    Quote Originally Posted by NitroHangover View Post
    Uhh... women? Is being a woman considered a job in and of itself now?
    Uhhh no...what I meant and you should have been able to figure out...I said Police and firemen...and women...meaning Policewomen and Firewomen.

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    Re: How do you like physical labor for a living?

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Uhhh no...what I meant and you should have been able to figure out...I said Police and firemen...and women...meaning Policewomen and Firewomen.
    Oh, durrr.

    For the record, though, the word Police doesn't need a gender modification. It applies to both men and women. And there's no such thing as Firemen anymore, and there's never been such a thing as "Firewomen". Ever since Fire Departments have been hiring women, the job title for everyone is simply Firefighter. Male Firefighters may still sometimes refer to themselves as Firemen in private, but you can actually be disciplined for saying it in any professional setting or capacity. The PC police don't like it.

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    Re: How do you like physical labor for a living?

    Quote Originally Posted by NitroHangover View Post
    Come on, man. I'm into this stuff too. Quit holdin out. What was the crazy stuff?

    Okay... besides cop, there was PI, bail-bond recovery/skip tracer, some courier work, personal security for certain wealthy persons, event security jobs (including a major cluster on The Mall in DC); amateur and semi-pro fighting in various venues, some of them licensed and some not so much. I've also "Broke" horses, worked around roughstock like Brahmas, stuff like that.

    For fun I used to do freehand rock climbing with little safety equipment (that was 20 years and 40 pounds ago!) and wilderness hiking (some of it near the Yellowstone... never ran into a Grizzley though).

    Basically, if it involved taking your life in your hands, I was into it.

    At 46 I've calmed down a little bit, and adopted a slightly more cautious attitude towards peril and mayhem... a decade-n'a-half of single fatherhood will do that to you, but the old urge to "move to the sound of the guns" is still there.

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    Re: How do you like physical labor for a living?

    Gnarly

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    Re: How do you like physical labor for a living?

    Quote Originally Posted by NitroHangover View Post
    Gnarly

    Well, since we're talking about all this... lemme give you a rundown...

    Cop: Well, I did get in a lot of gnarly and sphincter-tightening situations, but holy cow the PAPERWORK.... sometimes I felt like an insurance adjuster.

    PI: Highly overrated. Mostly boring. On the rare occasions it ISN'T boring you end up answering lots of very uncomfortable questions to law enforcement.

    Bail-bond recovery/skip tracer: Skip tracing is HARD. You can work directly FOR a bail-bondsman, who probably has a pretty fair idea how to find your man anyway, but then you're just hired muscle and they usually don't pay you much for it.

    Courier work: this is more like a "suspense" kind of thing, than an "action" kind of thing. Basically if anything actually happens you're probably screwed.

    Personal Security for wealthy people, aka "bodyguard".... sort of a cross between PI and Courier in flavor... lots of paranoia but not much action.

    Event Security: Major headache, along with the knowlege that if the whole crowd really goes off the rails there isn't a lot you can do, other than try not to die.

    Amateur and semi-pro fighting: My personal favorite, though I never made much money really. Climb in the ring with a total stranger and try to beat his brains in before he does the same to you.... big fun. Frequently painful though.

    Roughstock horses and cattle: An excellent way to get broken bones. Learning to fall well is essential.... but broken bones are still likely.

    Actually you'd be surprised how much excitement is involved in working for the power company. I lost count of how many dog attacks I've dealt with, and customers can be real doozies sometimes too.

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    Re: How do you like physical labor for a living?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    You can't throw someone into the workforce at 18+ y/o, who has never had a job and expect them to know how to work.
    What the hell is public education for?
    No signficant part of all that money and time is dedicated to ensuring children grow up to be capable of being a succes in the workplace? How did that happen, are they not measured on performance or something?

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    Re: How do you like physical labor for a living?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mach View Post
    What the hell is public education for?
    No signficant part of all that money and time is dedicated to ensuring children grow up to be capable of being a succes in the workplace? How did that happen, are they not measured on performance or something?
    When I dropped out to work, I went back to get my ged after about a year, many of the people there had done highschool the whole way and got kicked out due to age, and still couldn't pass the ged test. So these were 24 year olds for the most part.

    I dont know that they were dumb, the test seemed easy enough to me, but then again I have never met a test I couldn't ace, even if I don't know the material I am an excellent test taker, these people clearly weren't.

    See, the system failed me, and it failed those people in very different ways, but if they aren't good at tests and all school is geared to is tests they haven't been prepared for anything. I could think of a hundred things from how to apply makeup to welding that have more use than test taking skills in the real world.

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    Re: How do you like physical labor for a living?

    I prefer a mix, this is best, both physical and mental exercise. This is generally very difficult to achieve at the place of work....
    As an auto mechanic, one had to be both smart and agile, but, with all the tools that we have, it was not that physical..

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    Re: How do you like physical labor for a living?

    Quote Originally Posted by ab9924 View Post
    I hate work, all kinds of it. I was brought up to look down on it. But I am fascinated and puzzled by it, so I do it when I can, without the knowledge of the people around me. But what is interesting, really, is how closely work is intertwined with our very health. It appears, that the more work we do, the healthier we get. And non-physical labor doesn't help.

    So, now, that most non-physical jobs can be done over the INTERNET outsourced for a petence, how about this for a replacement for those unsustainable liberal social programs.

    Everyone who doesn't have a job or business, would be classified into weight groups, like in sports, and then given physical labor tasks with his/her group-mates. These tasks would include all labor that is physical, such as road maintenance, industrial trash collection, environmental clean-up, construction, transportation loading/off-loading, and so on. The people would be rotated between job types and sites daily, as well as between teams occasionally.

    This would give everyone a healthy body, happy life, and an opportunity to meet new people. This would provide a valuable infrastructure support service, as well as a possible elimination of social program deficits. And I bet this beats retirement and mid-life too.

    So, what would be your opinion?

    In case this sounds communistic, it is not my intent, I am a conservative. But I like looking internationally for ideas and some of those communist countries did manage to make the low segment of society happier with well organized and managed large scale communal physical work. We could introduce it in the US, will eliminate obesity and stress, I bet.

    Would it make sense to sell this to the republican campaign?
    This MUST NOT be a political thing, but I consider progressive/innovative thinking to be good.
    Many, too many, IMO, we taught, from birth, to look done on physical work..
    This was bad, humans were designed to do both...
    To reduce this stress/obesity problem, we should ALL be working out, doing calisthenics every morning before work.

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    Re: How do you like physical labor for a living?

    Hum.... Good question.

    You know it's funny I actually prefer physical labor, especially when the white collar job is repetitive and mundane.

    I do however prefer real thinking and innovation. I tend to be competitive too. I remember the days in elementary school where every other kid hated it when it rained, I prayed for it so I can show off my challenge 24 and chess skills. ...brings back nostalgic memories.
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