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Thread: Is Homework Detention necessary?

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    Re: Is Homework Detention necessary?

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    Then explain to me why statistically, children who do homework perform better than children who don't? Even today, when failing to turn in your homework cannot result in failing grades.
    Because the average kid, needs some amount of reinforcement, but all kids do not.
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    Re: Is Homework Detention necessary?

    We do have a problem here.
    IMO, its a "softness on education".
    Already, many consider us to be a bunch of uncivilized illiterates.
    Is this what we want ?
    And, BTW, I am a near high school drop-out...minimal effort = minimal results , for life...

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    Re: Is Homework Detention necessary?

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    So identify the skills needed to prepare one for the world of work please.
    Those things are difficult, to near impossible to teach.
    It must be learned in the "school of hard knocks."
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    Re: Is Homework Detention necessary?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    I swear - you seriously have the most ****ed up school district there . . . .everything you've said about them makes them just seem worse and worse.

    Homework detention? How ridiculous I'm with you on this.
    Why is it "ridiculous"?

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    Re: Is Homework Detention necessary?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aberration View Post
    And yet we have horrible drop out rates, and kids who can barely read.

    Kids don't learn much different when they are older than when they are younger. Try teaching a toddler their numbers for hours on end. It doesn't work. Its all about attention span. And its about rewarding teachers who can recognize that when a kid has lost attention and interest, no amount of pounding it in their head is going to work. Yet we don't reward those teachers, or hold them up as role models like we do in other professions. We average them in.
    The bolded statement is factually untrue and has been proven so by several behavioral studies.

    I'm not arguing that we have a perfect system. In fact, I've pointed out several flaws in the system in this thread.

    But, and please don't take this personally, Monday morning Quarterbacks tend to know exactly zilch about how children actually learn, or what methods will work best. They also tend to adopt this attitude that if the system is so terrible, that kids shouldn't be expected to perform well and can be excused for failing to meet their obligations as students.

    As much as the system needs to be revamped, parents need an attitude check. If you want your kids to learn, and they're forced to learn in a broken system, then you have an obligation as their parent to teach them how to get the most of out what's available. That doesn't mean making excuses for them to avoid their work.
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    Re: Is Homework Detention necessary?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Well my job isn't modeled around the school system, so the comparison you made failed.
    Sorry, homework is not equal to paid work.
    Sorry, but yes it is. They're both centered around performance and evaluation. The only real difference between work and school is the former offers financial compensation for performance.

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    The fact is, school doesn't prepare you for the work world, beyond basic reading and math.
    The fact is, yes it does. At least it does for those who take it seriously.

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    Re: Is Homework Detention necessary?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aberration View Post
    I graduated from High School with a 1.62 GPA. Only because I didn't do my homework. I aced my tests. I placed in the 95%+ on the standardized testing.

    The whole idea is supposed to be about learning the material.

    The very idea that there should be punishment for solely not doing homework just does not compute in my brain. Even the idea of punishing a kid for not learning something, just does not compute. As if punishing them is going to make them comply.
    I had homework detention in grade school and punishment did make us comply. It also raised the standards of our school above others. I didn't like it then, but I appreciate it now. It was just one thing among many that instilled me with the understanding that low performance - even just once - is unacceptable.

    /shrug

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    Re: Is Homework Detention necessary?

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    Why is it "ridiculous"?
    Why isn't it?

    You know - outside of school kids have a thing called family. Headed by parents or legal guardians . . . .and this thing called family, life and home sometimes just interfere with school things like homework. Other things like sickness and such.

    Can't fault students for things that sometimes might not be their fault.
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    Re: Is Homework Detention necessary?

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    So identify the skills needed to prepare one for the world of work please.
    School is academic. It is not about preparing someone to work. It is about teaching them the knowledge they will need to apply to their work.

    They should be learning that from their parents, from internships, from apprenticeships.
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    Re: Is Homework Detention necessary?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dooble View Post
    Sorry, but yes it is. They're both centered around performance and evaluation. The only real difference between work and school is the former offers financial compensation for performance.
    There are many other differences between school and work.
    At work, what you are doing tends to be value added, at school (if you already know the material) it is not.
    That's the whole point.

    Kids who have master material, should not be force to languish with those who haven't.
    You have to separate the wheat from the chaff.


    Quote Originally Posted by Dooble View Post
    The fact is, yes it does. At least it does for those who take it seriously.
    Not at all.
    A ridiculous amount of the prestigious high school graduates I work with, are functionally illiterate.

    Work involves much more than what formal schooling can deliver and must be learned, at work.
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