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    Re: Is Homework Detention necessary?

    Every child learns differently, and at a different pace in different areas. Yet almost everyone is forced to 'learn' the same way.
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    Re: Is Homework Detention necessary?

    Quote Originally Posted by Connery View Post
    This is not necessarily true. I am the only person in my family with a college degree, let alone advanced degrees. My father was a high school drop out, my mother graduated high school.
    No, of course, it's not necessarily true. I've known many, many folks who were the first in their families to finish high school, much less college, much less advanced degrees.

    But what is true is that American students are measurably not learning what previous Americans took for granted--the "three R's." What has changed? All my life, just about everybody I ever met who finished 8th grade had these three basics down better than kids today.

    Take a look at the number of "developmental" courses that colleges must offer. Why? Because the same "Not-my-little-Johnnie!" helicopter parents who demand that "accommodations" be made allow their kids to not do math homework, knowing that the kid will still be given a 50 and through other credits graduate. Then they're enraged when the kid can't take a college math course for credit, sometimes over and over, LOL.

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    Re: Is Homework Detention necessary?

    Quote Originally Posted by 0bserver92 View Post
    My school doesn't care if you don't do your homework, you get a zero and you fail.
    Which state? Public or private school?

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    Re: Is Homework Detention necessary?

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    I never had to study in high school. I did all the homework assignments, but before tests I never cracked a book or did a study guide. Never created a notes sheet when they were allowed. I graduated 3 people outside of the top 10 in a class of almost 900, had an awesome SAT score, and got offered a 75% tuition scholarship to Baylor.

    I ended up at a community college due to finances and had a government professor who took her job so seriously that I almost flunked. Her tests were not about rote memorization or recalling facts from the text. You had to be able to make higher-level connections, draw conclusions, and analyze potential outcomes to pass her tests. And so for the first time in my life I had to study.

    I had no clue what to do. None. I'd never gone to a study group, never tried to really do research, nothing. I had to go to a work shop on how to study, and only gained marginal skills by the time the semester ended, barely pulling out a B in a class I damn sure could have made an A in.

    So my anecdotal evidence probably means jack squat to you, right? Don't take offense to this, but yours doesn't mean much more to me. Statistically speaking, students who do the homework do better overall, on tests, in regards to behavior, and in general in the schooling environment. Just because we have a few rebel flukes here on the boards to managed success without trying doesn't negate that the statistical swing goes the other way.
    Oh, I studied for tests and things. I don't really consider studying homework though because you usually know when there will be a test, so you don't have to do 2-3 hours of studying in one day on top of school. You can spread it out.

    Anyhow, I have to go to work now, so see you all later!

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    Re: Is Homework Detention necessary?

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    I never had to study in high school. I did all the homework assignments, but before tests I never cracked a book or did a study guide. Never created a notes sheet when they were allowed. I graduated 3 people outside of the top 10 in a class of almost 900, had an awesome SAT score, and got offered a 75% tuition scholarship to Baylor.

    I ended up at a community college due to finances and had a government professor who took her job so seriously that I almost flunked. Her tests were not about rote memorization or recalling facts from the text. You had to be able to make higher-level connections, draw conclusions, and analyze potential outcomes to pass her tests. And so for the first time in my life I had to study.

    I had no clue what to do. None. I'd never gone to a study group, never tried to really do research, nothing. I had to go to a work shop on how to study, and only gained marginal skills by the time the semester ended, barely pulling out a B in a class I damn sure could have made an A in.

    So my anecdotal evidence probably means jack squat to you, right? Don't take offense to this, but yours doesn't mean much more to me. Statistically speaking, students who do the homework do better overall, on tests, in regards to behavior, and in general in the schooling environment. Just because we have a few rebel flukes here on the boards who managed success without trying doesn't negate that the statistical swing goes the other way.
    That just means that high school didn't prepare you for college.
    But guess what, you learned to overcome a new challenge.

    Being a rebel isn't the point.
    The point is that "going through the motions" isn't learning, it's mediocre, at best
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    Is Homework Detention necessary?

    Quote Originally Posted by Connery View Post
    What does that mean?
    It means exactly what was written. Should I have added the word hardworking so it would have been more clear to you?
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    Re: Is Homework Detention necessary?

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    I never had to study in high school. I did all the homework assignments, but before tests I never cracked a book or did a study guide. Never created a notes sheet when they were allowed. I graduated 3 people outside of the top 10 in a class of almost 900, had an awesome SAT score, and got offered a 75% tuition scholarship to Baylor.

    I ended up at a community college due to finances and had a government professor who took her job so seriously that I almost flunked. Her tests were not about rote memorization or recalling facts from the text. You had to be able to make higher-level connections, draw conclusions, and analyze potential outcomes to pass her tests. And so for the first time in my life I had to study.

    I had no clue what to do. None. I'd never gone to a study group, never tried to really do research, nothing. I had to go to a work shop on how to study, and only gained marginal skills by the time the semester ended, barely pulling out a B in a class I damn sure could have made an A in.

    So my anecdotal evidence probably means jack squat to you, right? Don't take offense to this, but yours doesn't mean much more to me. Statistically speaking, students who do the homework do better overall, on tests, in regards to behavior, and in general in the schooling environment. Just because we have a few rebel flukes here on the boards who managed success without trying doesn't negate that the statistical swing goes the other way.
    And yet we have horrible drop out rates, and kids who can barely read.

    Kids don't learn much different when they are older than when they are younger. Try teaching a 4yr old their numbers for hours on end. It doesn't work. Its all about attention span. And its about rewarding teachers who can recognize that when a kid has lost attention and interest, no amount of pounding it in their head is going to work. Yet we don't reward those teachers, or hold them up as role models like we do in other professions. We average them in.

    We only have this structure because of the lack of resources for public education. It is exactly why home schooled kids perform better.
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    Re: Is Homework Detention necessary?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    That just means that high school didn't prepare you for college.
    But guess what, you learned to overcome a new challenge.

    Being a rebel isn't the point.
    The point is that "going through the motions" isn't learning, it's mediocre, at best
    Then explain to me why statistically, children who do homework perform better than children who don't? Even today, when failing to turn in your homework cannot result in failing grades.
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    Re: Is Homework Detention necessary?

    Quote Originally Posted by marcus903 View Post
    If you haven't heard or don't know what Homework Detention is, it's a form of discipline that penalizes students who don't do their homework.

    I've been to one school that did this, I just want to say that it was very overused and very harsh. Teachers would give you homework detention for missing ONE homework assignment. It was like being punished for missing one day of swimming class.

    The schools that do this needs to get back to reality. It's okay to punish students who don't do their homework, but have to give them detention for missing one assignment just proves that you are desperate. Homework isn't really that important. At the school I'm at now, the teachers are not even uptight about such an obsessive assignment. They're not even going to ask or keep you after school.

    Is homework detention necessary?
    I swear - you seriously have the most ****ed up school district there . . . .everything you've said about them makes them just seem worse and worse.

    Homework detention? How ridiculous I'm with you on this.
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    Re: Is Homework Detention necessary?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Well my job isn't modeled around the school system, so the comparison you made failed.
    Sorry, homework is not equal to paid work.

    The fact is, school doesn't prepare you for the work world, beyond basic reading and math.
    So identify the skills needed to prepare one for the world of work please.

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