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    Is Homework Detention necessary?

    Quote Originally Posted by Connery View Post
    Is your position that those other than Asian's are not proficient enough to work for you?
    No, just that the odds tend to be better. It is those who think that they don't have to do homework because they have already mastered the subject clearly haven't learned everything about what they are really there to learn. As for detention as a disincentive. No idea, it could help some and piss off others. Then again, the number of real lessons continues to be ignored.
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    Re: Is Homework Detention necessary?

    Screw homework. Frankly I'd prefer to see half of High Schoolers switching to a jobs-oriented Apprenticeship program at age 15 or 16, so when they turn 18 they're trained up for an in-demand skilled trade with an established work experience/work-history already... not everyone is going on to college, nor does everyone need to.

    Nowadays we think we have to prep everyone for college, and yet nearly 3/4ths flunk out within the first two years. Half of them didn't want to be there in the first place, methinks.

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    Re: Is Homework Detention necessary?

    Quote Originally Posted by marcus903 View Post
    Is homework detention necessary?
    Apparently so -- if when students know they're going to face detention if they don't do their homework and they still don't do it.

    Actually, I think it's a great idea. This lets the parents know the student isn't turning in homework -- and gives him an opportunity to devote a class period to getting it done -- and possibly working on that day's homework. No big deal. Can't hurt. Might help.
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    Re: Is Homework Detention necessary?

    Quote Originally Posted by Connery View Post
    I have no doubt, but, not in the area I grew up in many are dead and many more still "stuck". I am one of the lucky ones I assure you



    This is a nice story, however, my involvement with school is very steep and I know what the curriculum is requiring the student to do. I cannot disagree with you more strenuously based on my experiences, observations and involvement in school education. In order to have these "accommodations", you speak of, the child must be evaluated by a school psychiatrist and must be determined to have "special educations" needs at which point an Individual Education Program(IEP) will be provided. No one can unilaterally change a child's educational program because a parent wishes it to be. You speak of pure fantasy.

    I believe much of the problem is with the standardized tests and teaching to the tests.
    Please don't misunderstand; I am acutely aware of how valuable "accommodations" can be. In fact, I can even state that public schools are often more sensitive and able than private schools in this regard.

    The reason I placed "accommodations" in quote marks the first time I used this term was the fact that helicopter parents too often think that because their little Johnny is "special" in some way, he should receive special favorable treatment. I am not referring to those students who genuinely need genuine accommodations.

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    Re: Is Homework Detention necessary?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    There are so many OTHER ways to teach children responsibility. Isn't 6-7 hours of school a day enough? These are kids we're talking about. For goodness sake, most adults only work for 8 hours a day with no homework.
    Kids generally aren't actually sitting in class the whole 6-7 hours a day that they're at school. And elementary school kids don't (or shouldn't) get a whole lot of homework.

    And I'd love to meet these adults that only work 8 hours a day and never have to take work home with them or stay late to get things done. I don't know any of them. I work late or take work home with me at least one night a week, generally more often than that.
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    Re: Is Homework Detention necessary?

    Quote Originally Posted by shiang View Post
    It's true homework can sometimes be silly and stupid but doing them does build work ethic and sometimes gives you practice you need. I would not say "Homework isn't really that important", it is.

    Come on lets face it "detention" isn't THAT awful, you stay after school and do some more work (which you should've done in the first place), once your done with the HW I'd say they should let you move on to more interesting/advanced stuff, incause you didn't do your HW cause i thought it was too easy =P.
    This "work ethic" goal doesn't relate to job performance. People are a lot more dedicated when they get paid for the work. Many people who were lazy students get very energetic when they are motivated by wages.

    School is work without pay, or for any other psychologically motivating reward (I suggest they be given days off). What it really builds is a slave ethic, preparing students who spent a dozen or more years working without pay to accept less pay when finally rewarded for work.
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    Re: Is Homework Detention necessary?

    Sweet christmas, is this thread kidding me?

    Homework is only there to test if you can manage your time and complete a task within that managed time. It gives you a sense of responsibility beyond the assigned hours you normally would work within school. It's a job that you have to complete on your own time.

    It's useful education no matter what career you choose to pursue. It's truly depressing that this would even be considered controversial.

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    Re: Is Homework Detention necessary?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ben K. View Post
    Sweet christmas, is this thread kidding me?

    Homework is only there to test if you can manage your time and complete a task within that managed time. It gives you a sense of responsibility beyond the assigned hours you normally would work within school. It's a job that you have to complete on your own time.

    It's useful education no matter what career you choose to pursue. It's truly depressing that this would even be considered controversial.
    In school, when I grasped the material, near immediately, I was often forbidden from completing the homework before I left the class, instead forced to listen to a useless lecture about said work, I already understood.
    What this teaches you is that you have to follow, arbitrary, useless rules, when there are more efficient and productive ways of completing work.
    It teaches you to follow a wasteful standard of work.

    What school has inadvertently taught is that there are times, when you shouldn't listen to the boss.
    Because they're completely wrong.
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    Re: Is Homework Detention necessary?

    Quote Originally Posted by marcus903 View Post
    Homework isn't really that important.
    ... You lost me there.

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    Re: Is Homework Detention necessary?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    In school, when I grasped the material, near immediately, I was often forbidden from completing the homework before I left the class, instead forced to listen to a useless lecture about said work, I already understood.
    What this teaches you is that you have to follow, arbitrary, useless rules, when there are more efficient and productive ways of completing work.
    It teaches you to follow a wasteful standard of work.

    What school has inadvertently taught is that there are times, when you shouldn't listen to the boss.
    Because they're completely wrong.
    Im not sure I understand homework the way you do. There are countless subjects you may be asked to address in your own time and whether you're strong at the task or not you are expected to complete the task at hand. If you're weak you set the time aside, if you're strong you can relax and recreate. It's about personal time management that will continue to be a part of your life until the day you die.

    The fact you understood and solved the work and found it useless is pretty absurd as a complaint, most don't and are simply being taught in the ways of personal responsibility.

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