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    Re: Do you think most Blacks vote for Obama just because he black?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    No just noting reality

    Well the percentage of blacks who are receiving government help is extremely high compared to other groups and I think a third of black males have criminal records. When certain laws disproportionately help or hurt certain groups members of those groups tend to have higher or lower than favorable views of the laws. Its why many LEGAL hispanics are outraged with say the Arizona immigration laws: even though those laws don't apply to them, they see the laws as targeting people who are LIKE them
    You think? It's people who "think" as you do that are the leading cause of racial discord in this country. You THINK bigoted stereotypes and/or racial thoughts and magically your thoughts become reality. : Show current statistics to support your line of thinking and don't bring misdemeanor drugs charges into the equation. We all know the fallacy of Black men being arrested for possession of small amounts of marijuana -vs- crack rock. Blacks could use this same biasness to proport the number of White men arrested for meth and use it as justification to berate Whites.

    So again, STOP WITH THE RACE BAITING!

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    Re: Do you think most Blacks vote for Obama just because he black?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    You give him credit for alleged positions that he has never taken, and which are at odds with positions that he has expressed. You called him “pro-life”, when everything he has said on the subject of abortion is contrary to the position generally described by that term; and you called him “pro-gun rights”, when, again, everything that he is known to have said on the subject is contrary to that position as well.

    As President, he hasn't directly taken any actions that are relevant to either of these issues. Your only basis for calling him “pro-gun rights” is that he hasn't participated in the enacting of any new gun control laws. Given the positions that he has clearly stated in the past, it's a safe bet that if a new gun control bill were to come across his desk, as President, he'd be more likely than not to sign it into law; and if a bill were to come across his desk to relax existing gun control laws, it is as likely that he would veto it.

    Similarly, based on his past expressed opinions, it is likely that he'd sign a bill that removed legal restrictions against killing unborn children, and veto a bill that increased restrictions against doing so.
    The President's position on gun control has more to do with limited access to semi-automatic weapons, i.e., assault riffles, particularly with people with mental health issues, than a direct ban on such weapons. But let's not let facts get in the way of truth.

    As I said on the issue of partial-birth abortions, I'm not in favor of the practise, but I defer to the opinion of medical professionals on women's health to judge the soundness of implementing such practises.

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    Re: Do you think most Blacks vote for Obama just because he black?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    what percentage of blacks are net tax payers vs those who are net tax consumers. I never said those suckling on the public teat wanted to do that in all cases or even a majority. But suckle they do and the last thing they care about is those of us who fund the public teat getting tax cuts or the government spending less on filling the teat they suckle from
    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    I don't know....but since you're the one asking the question while proporting that the answer bares some major significants, why don't you spares us the agony and provide the answer and the source to support your claim.
    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    its easily available if you really care
    I don't, not because I'm concerned for what the answer might reveal but rather because I don't see the relevance of the question. Regardless of how much taxes Blacks pay or don't pay, it's still would not justify the premise that Blacks by virtue of using entitlement programs are the leading cause of the national debt or the deficit. Anyone who believes such really does not understand what expenditures comprise our national debt and above all are racist in general - PERIOD!

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    Re: Do you think most Blacks vote for Obama just because he black?

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    I don't, not because I'm concerned for what the answer might reveal but rather because I don't see the relevance of the question. Regardless of how much taxes Blacks pay or don't pay, it's still would not justify the premise that Blacks by virtue of using entitlement programs are the leading cause of the national debt or the deficit. Anyone who believes such really does not understand what expenditures comprise our national debt and above all are racist in general - PERIOD!

    why do blacks vote 90% in favor of the party of entitlements?

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    Re: Do you think most Blacks vote for Obama just because he black?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    why do blacks vote 90% in favor of the party of entitlements?
    Hmmmm...is it possible that it has everything to do with racial diversity and inclusion as opposed to racial segregation and exclusion? Did you not see the RNC versus the DNC? Talk about an all-White canvass with a few dark specks sprinkled here and there versus the Rainbow Coalition in the 21th Century. Or was your television only capable of capturing the images in pure Black and White much as your eyes seem to?

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    Re: Do you think most Blacks vote for Obama just because he black?

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    Hmmmm...is it possible that it has everything to do with racial diversity and inclusion as opposed to racial segregation and exclusion? Did you not see the RNC versus the DNC? Talk about an all-White canvass with a few dark specks sprinkled here and there versus the Rainbow Coalition in the 21th Century. Or was your television only capable of capturing the images in pure Black and White much as your eyes seem to?
    yes we know the dems have strict quotas as to who can be delegates.

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    Re: Do you think most Blacks vote for Obama just because he black?

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Do you know how many he interviewed?
    Not sure but I saw about a half dozen be interviewed.
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    Re: Do you think most Blacks vote for Obama just because he black?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    What an idiotic, racist question. An overwhelming majority of blacks have voted for every Democratic presidential candidate for a long time, including white folks like John Kerry, Al Gore, and Bill Clinton. In fact, in the rare circumstances when there is a white Democrat and a black Republican on the ballot (e.g. the 2006 Maryland Senate race), most black voters have STILL backed the white Democrat.

    Perhaps it's because they agree with the Democrats on the issues more. Or perhaps it's because the Republicans totally alienate them via moronic race-baiting like this thread.
    It's not a racist question. God's sake.

    To answer the OP, yes, I think it is likely that many blacks voted for Obama just because he is black. And perhaps just as many voted against him for the same reason.

    Edit: Speaking of the 2008 election . . .

    In last year’s presidential election, younger blacks voted in greater proportions than whites for the first time and black women turned out at a higher rate than any other racial, ethnic and gender group, a census analysis released Monday confirmed.
    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/21/us...vote.html?_r=0
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    Re: Do you think most Blacks vote for Obama just because he black?

    Everyone who disagrees with him is because they are a racist or a homophobe. That said I believe Obama carried every group with the exception of white males and you are right I am sure there are whites from the south who voted against him because he is black.

    If you take the word of the media you would think he was loved by all in 2008.
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    Re: Do you think most Blacks vote for Obama just because he black?

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    It's not a racist question. God's sake.
    It most certainly is. The idea that most blacks vote for Obama "just because he's black" is retarded, considering that most black voters are life-long Democrats. It's not like Obama's margin of victory among black voters in 2008 was totally out of line with what one would expect a Democrat to win, who won the electorate as a whole by 7%. The idea that "most blacks" voted for him because he's black has a very nasty, racist subtext to it: The idea that black voters are a hive-mind who can't see anything other than race and can't think critically for themselves. Also note the judgmental "just" in the poll question, which implies that black voters' reasons for voting for Obama are less valid than the OP's reasons for voting for whoever he voted for.

    To answer the OP, yes, I think it is likely that many blacks voted for Obama just because he is black. And perhaps just as many voted against him for the same reason.
    You have no evidence to support this assertion. Among black voters in 2008, Obama ran 8 points ahead of John Kerry's 2004 vote share. Among ALL voters in 2008, Obama ran 5 points ahead of John Kerry's 2004 vote share. Hardly a wild divergence there.
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