View Poll Results: Are we better off in the 21c compared to 19c?

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  • Yes, slightly better

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    Re: Are we better off in the 21c compared to 19c?

    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalAvenger View Post
    Yeah, I guess it does have to do with what side of the tracks you live.
    On the contrary, people like Edison, Lincoln, and Carnegie could rise in class with their formal education ending at 3d Grade. You started at the bottom and worked your way up, learning on the job or through self-education. People like Lincoln, who was an excellent lawyer, weren't forced to not earn a living until they were 25, which is required of law students today.
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    Re: Are we better off in the 21c compared to 19c?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mickey Shane View Post
    I'm generally not a spelling Nazi. I promise. I just think that not knowing how to spell what you are is akin to misspelling your own name. It's not just a word anymore, it's your essence. Construction workers aren't typically known for English language skills, so we would tell the apprentices that you needed to be able to spell carpenter to be one.

    If I was a restaurateur. I would definitely learn how to spell that word. And yeah, I just stuck an 'n' in there and spell-check made me select the correct spelling.

    But hey, I'm not one.
    I was unable to find the full etymology, but from my knowledge of Latin, I can guess that restaurant comes from a participle like "restoring" so "restauranteur" would be like saying "restoringer" instead of restorer. Or "debatinger" instead of debater.
    On the outside, trickling down on the insiders.
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    Hey, richboys! Imagine the boot of democracy stomping on your faces, forever.

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    Re: Are we better off in the 21c compared to 19c?

    Quote Originally Posted by PrometheusBound View Post
    The movie is an infuriating demonstration of the anti-social self-indulgence that really motivates the Trekkies extraterrestrial fixation. The government wastes billions just to award Jodie Foster with a fantasy interview with her deceased father.
    Such an angry young man!

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    Re: Are we better off in the 21c compared to 19c?

    Quote Originally Posted by PrometheusBound View Post
    On the contrary, people like Edison, Lincoln, and Carnegie could rise in class with their formal education ending at 3d Grade. You started at the bottom and worked your way up, learning on the job or through self-education. People like Lincoln, who was an excellent lawyer, weren't forced to not earn a living until they were 25, which is required of law students today.
    That wass then, this is now.

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    Re: Are we better off in the 21c compared to 19c?

    I voted "I can't make up my mind," because in some ways we are better off (lifestyle conveniences, medical advances, etc.) and in other ways we are worse off (overpopulated, overly complex, living more out of balance with our ecosystems than ever, more financially leveraged and fates all interconnected, we have nuclear weapons pointed at one another, etc.).

    So while day-to-day life in the immediate sense is much better, our long-term stability outlook is shaky to say the least.

    Can't really say.

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    Re: Are we better off in the 21c compared to 19c?

    Quote Originally Posted by Neomalthusian View Post
    I voted "I can't make up my mind," because in some ways we are better off (lifestyle conveniences, medical advances, etc.) and in other ways we are worse off (overpopulated, overly complex, living more out of balance with our ecosystems than ever, more financially leveraged and fates all interconnected, we have nuclear weapons pointed at one another, etc.).

    So while day-to-day life in the immediate sense is much better, our long-term stability outlook is shaky to say the least.

    Can't really say.
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    Re: Are we better off in the 21c compared to 19c?

    Quote Originally Posted by PrometheusBound View Post
    The government wastes billions just to award Jodie Foster with a fantasy interview with her deceased father.
    No, the government wasted billions to award doctor Eleanor Arroway and as it turned out it wasn't such a fantasy.

    Never mind, that was an illustration.

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    Re: Are we better off in the 21c compared to 19c?

    Yes, but we've gone backward since the 20th Century.

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    Re: Are we better off in the 21c compared to 19c?

    Quote Originally Posted by Canell View Post
    Are we better off in the 21-th century compared to 19-th century, what do you think?
    Are you kidding? Most of us would be dead by middle age if we'd been living in the 19th century, having either worked ourselves to death, or died of some common, simple disease (either due to lack of money to pay for treatment, or lack of medical technology to treat it). For most women, life was little more than being traded as property and bred like a farm animal. Black people were either enslaved or living under the weight of Jim Crow. Society was considerably more violent, and the chances of you dying at the hands of another were astronomically higher. The chances of you getting through life without being violently assaulted were virtually nil.

    As per your later posts, anyone who thinks porn and gay people are new-fangled inventions is seriously ignorant of history. Gays have existed for millions of years in almost every mammal on earth, and humans have made and consumed porn since we first figured out how to carve shapes in rocks. There really isn't anything new under the sun; just different incarnations of the same ole', same ole'.

    I honestly can't even imagine how anyone could ask whether we're better off now or 200 years ago.

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    Re: Are we better off in the 21c compared to 19c?

    Absolutely.
    Saying otherwise would be completely absurd.
    I was discovering that life just simply isn't fair and bask in the unsung glory of knowing that each obstacle overcome along the way only adds to the satisfaction in the end. Nothing great, after all, was ever accomplished by anyone sulking in his or her misery.
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