View Poll Results: Where do you draw the line? Who would you help? You can choose more than one

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  • Physically or Mentally Handicapped

    53 85.48%
  • Cant seem to keep a job. Too tired to get up

    6 9.68%
  • Developmentally Handicapped

    48 77.42%
  • Poor who truely need help

    43 69.35%
  • All the poor no matter what the circumstance

    19 30.65%
  • Too obese or depressed to work

    7 11.29%
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Thread: Helping the Needy and the Poor

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    Re: Helping the Needy and the Poor

    So who made the decision that it was our responsibility to help the poor?

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    Re: Helping the Needy and the Poor

    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalAvenger View Post
    yeah, they conviently forget that in their platforms.

    I just hope some day that they might regain their souls which they sold out for
    personal greed.

    They also try to blame the poor for the deficit when everyone knows that a nations can not keep raiding it's treasury and giving it to the rich via tax cuts, not to mention not paying for a war with taxes. How absurd.
    The worship of Mammon has replaced their formerly professed Christian values. And that is sad in very many ways.

    I never thought I would live long enough to thumb through my old high school bookkeeping text where it shows two sides of a balance sheet and know that a majority in Congress consider that heretical and the work of the devil.
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    Re: Helping the Needy and the Poor

    Quote Originally Posted by johnny_rebson View Post
    So who made the decision that it was our responsibility to help the poor?
    My conscience did it for me.

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    Re: Helping the Needy and the Poor

    Quote Originally Posted by Frogfussle View Post
    You truly are a compassionate conservative.
    Yes I am a compassionate conservative. Thank you for acknowledging that.

    Something we all need to know is that we all share one thing. Something made us the way we are. It may be one or a combinations of things including to whom we were born, the way our brains are wired, our body chemistry, trauma, experiences with the police, etc. I am not saying we must not be held accountable for our own actions. I am simply asking for understanding. Understanding would be good not only for us but for future generations. Simply ascribing the actions of others to good or evil is not only too simplistic but ignorant but for some it beats critical thinking because it is much easier.
    Irrelevant nonsense.
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    Re: Helping the Needy and the Poor

    Quote Originally Posted by Frogfussle View Post
    All applicants who can fog a mirror are refused SSI on first application, and the next and the next and...........

    I'm sure the idea is cut down on those who game the system and of course many will try. A cottage industry among lawyers has sprouted just because of this. I suggest you research this on the net. It may be that she really doesn't need a lawyer, just perseverance.
    I don't think you even have to be a lawyer to be a SS advocate. Anyway thanks, but fortunately for her one of her less than self-involved children cashed out part of their IRA and paid off her bills and gave her enough money to get by on until she made it to early retirement. It just sickens me that people like that who worked and contributed get virtually shut out on physical disability and people like her grandson can get by with crap like that by making mental disability claims (I suppose technically her grandson's mother is the one who got by with it since the check came to her as his payee).

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    Re: Helping the Needy and the Poor

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    SSI is insurance. He EARNED it.
    The supreme court disagress with you. They consider it charity. Otherwise it would be unconstitutional. Thats why it is a tax as well.
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    Re: Helping the Needy and the Poor

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Good point. What ever happened to the 'compassionate' that was suppose to be paired with 'conservative'? It seems that is now a foreign concept which is totally disdained by the right.
    Apparently actually having some basis for argument is a concept completely lost on leftist shills.

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    Re: Helping the Needy and the Poor

    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalAvenger View Post
    yeah, they conviently forget that in their platforms.

    I just hope some day that they might regain their souls which they sold out for
    personal greed.

    Fueling someone's addiction is not compassion. What is compassionate is donating to places that feed, house,clothe and aid the homeless.
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    Re: Helping the Needy and the Poor

    Quote Originally Posted by celticwar17 View Post

    Personally, To me, government is not a tool to help people, it is the law of the land and is their to enforce freedoms.
    We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
    ..........

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    Re: Helping the Needy and the Poor

    Quote Originally Posted by Sarcogito View Post
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    was I referring to what the preamble of the constitution thought about it? and "promote the general Welfare" can pretty much be interpreted anyway you want it to by the standards most interpret the constitution as.

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