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    Was the Obama Administration Incompetent or Corrupt in its response to Benghazi?

    It is now out that the Administration knew within 24 hours that the attacks in Benghazi were part of a planned terrorist operation by either al-Qaeda or an al-Qaeda affiliate.

    The Timeline of Administration Statements on the Libya Attack

    ...I think it’s important to note with regards to that protest that there are protests taking place in different countries across the world that are responding to the movie that has circulated on the Internet. As Secretary Clinton said today, the United States government had nothing to do with this movie. We reject its message and its contents. We find it disgusting and reprehensible. America has a history of religious tolerance and respect for religious beliefs that goes back to our nation’s founding. We are stronger because we are the home to people of all religions, including millions of Muslims, and we reject the denigration of religion. We also believe that there is no justification at all for responding to this movie with violence.” — White House spokesman Jay Carney, news briefing, Sept. 13


    “This has been a difficult week for the State Department and for our country. We’ve seen the heavy assault on our post in Benghazi that took the lives of those brave men. We’ve seen rage and violence directed at American embassies over n awful Internet video that we had nothing to do with. It is hard for the American people to make sense of that because it is senseless, and it is totally unacceptable.”

    — Clinton, transfer of remains ceremony, Sept. 14


    “I have seen that report, and the story is absolutely wrong. We were not aware of any actionable intelligence indicating that an attack on the U.S. mission in Benghazi was planned or imminent. That report is false.”

    — Carney, news briefing, Sept. 14


    “Based on the best information we have to date ... it began spontaneously in Benghazi as a reaction to what had transpired some hours earlier in Cairo, where, of course, as you know, there was a violent protest outside of our embassy sparked by this hateful video. But soon after that spontaneous protest began outside of our consulate in Benghazi, we believe that it looks like extremist elements, individuals, joined in that effort with heavy weapons of the sort that are, unfortunately, readily now available in Libya post-revolution. And that it spun from there into something much, much more violent.... We do not have information at present that leads us to conclude that this was premeditated or preplanned.


    — Susan E. Rice, U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, on CBS’s “Face the Nation,” Sept. 16 ...


    These are administration officials arguing that instead the attack on the Benghazi consulate was a spontaneous protest that was connected to the propaganda operation run by al-Qaeda to coincide with and provide cover for the assault..... and we now know that the administration then knew that that claim was wrong.

    So. Why?






    [later edit] Dangit! I hit enter at the wrong time and it didn't let me have a poll. Can a moderator please put up the options:


    1. The administration was incapable of keeping up with events
    2. The administration chose to attempt a cover up to keep from admitting its' failure to stop a planned terrorist assault about which they had warning
    3. The administration was attempting a deception campaign against foreign audiences in the pursuit of policy goals (please describe)

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    Re: Was the Obama Administration Incompetent or Corrupt in its response to Benghazi?

    I'm also getting the sense that branches of the executive had no real coordination with regards to a response. Some statements directly contradict others.
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    Re: Was the Obama Administration Incompetent or Corrupt in its response to Benghazi?

    one vote for incompetence then. but what kind of administration has principals who make declarative public statements with information that they know is either inaccurate or insufficient?

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    Re: Was the Obama Administration Incompetent or Corrupt in its response to Benghazi?

    Can someone who is concerned about such things explain to someone like me, who has been avoiding these kinds of stories like the plague, what exactly the fuss is about here? As far as I know, mislabeling it as a terrorist attack or not a terrorist attack for a couple days doesn't actually have any practical consequences. The error didn't threaten national security. And the people who were ultimately misinformed (i.e. the public) mostly just went about their day without acting any differently. Sounds to me like some people in the Obama Administration thought it was terrorism, others didn't, and they just didn't do a very good job coordinating their response. That's hardly unusual in breaking news events.

    So I guess my question is this: What do you think the administration should have done differently on this issue, and how would doing so make the world a better place?
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    Re: Was the Obama Administration Incompetent or Corrupt in its response to Benghazi?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Can someone who is concerned about such things explain to someone like me, who has been avoiding these kinds of stories like the plague, what exactly the fuss is about here?
    Administration officials did not tell the truth (and may have lied) to the public about the murder of our Ambassador and three other Americans in a terrorist attack on the anniversary of 9/11. That is sort of significant.

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    Re: Was the Obama Administration Incompetent or Corrupt in its response to Benghazi?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    one vote for incompetence then. but what kind of administration has principals who make declarative public statements with information that they know is either inaccurate or insufficient?
    I don't know but Romney's response sure does fit that description. Even Republicans agreed it was STUPID.

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    Re: Was the Obama Administration Incompetent or Corrupt in its response to Benghazi?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Administration officials did not tell the truth (and may have lied) to the public about the murder of our Ambassador and three other Americans in a terrorist attack on the anniversary of 9/11. That is sort of significant.
    So there was no murder? How did they lie about it then?

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    Re: Was the Obama Administration Incompetent or Corrupt in its response to Benghazi?

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    So there was no murder? How did they lie about it then?
    They knew that it was a planned terrorist attack and then apparently they went on television and swore up and down that it was instead all that stupid youtube video.

    If the officials they put on television knew what the Administration that sent them knew, then that means that they lied about national security and dead Americans in order to help the President's reelection campaign. If they didn't know, then that means that he Administration lied to them in order to get them to fool us in order to help the Presidents' reelection campaign.

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    Re: Was the Obama Administration Incompetent or Corrupt in its response to Benghazi?

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    I don't know but Romney's response sure does fit that description. Even Republicans agreed it was STUPID.

    You are mistaking Romneys' response to the Cairo Embassy Tweet to his response to the attack on Benghazi.

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    Re: Was the Obama Administration Incompetent or Corrupt in its response to Benghazi?

    Could it have been a terrorist attack that was orchestrated by the imminent release of this film. Then, the terrorists could have infiltrated the crowds and incited a spontaneous riot. So both answers could be true.

    I'm not a detective so I'm just guessing here.

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