View Poll Results: Is the US Military budget morally reasonable and sane?

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  • The budget is reasonable.

    8 34.78%
  • The budget is unreasonable.

    8 34.78%
  • The military budget is insane.

    7 30.43%
  • The military budget is immoral and insane.

    8 34.78%
  • War is good business and that is big military.

    1 4.35%
  • Imperialism and Empire are expensive, military required.

    3 13.04%
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Thread: Is the price of Imperialism worth it?

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    Re: Is the price of Imperialism worth it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Agree to disagree then. I am not a big fan, but I do think if you're going to admire an American President, you could certainly do worse than President Eisenhower.

    Like I said, I think he was well-meaning, but he could have handled a lot of things better.
    Hey fair enough, always great to debate history.

    Perhaps he could have handled things better but that's always easy to say in hindsight.

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    Re: Is the price of Imperialism worth it?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChuckBerry View Post
    This is the essence of the most salient argument for American military superiority. If not us, then who? American "imperialism" might be bad, but envision a Soviet or ChiCom imperialism...
    Exactly. A lot of people don't realize that. They believe that if the USA becomes less powerful, then the world will be exactly the same minus a powerful America. Actually, someone ALWAYS comes in to fill the power vacuum.

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    Re: Is the price of Imperialism worth it?

    People are led to being in denial over it, but the Arabs' overcharging us dozens of times the production cost of oil has been the main cause of our economic decline. We are just proving the disaster of abandoning the kind of imperialism believed in during the 19th Century (including the American takeover of Indian land). The idea was that the backward tribes were incapable of developing their own non-primitive resources, therefore forfeiting ownership of them, and that they were natural thieves, incapable of doing business in a socially acceptable manner, such as charging a fair price in relation to cost.
    On the outside, trickling down on the insiders.
    We won't live free until the 1% live in fear.
    Hey, richboys! Imagine the boot of democracy stomping on your faces, forever.

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    Re: Is the price of Imperialism worth it?

    I thought the title of this thread was a comment made by Vader to Palpatine in a rare moment of weakness after the destruction of the first Death Star.
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    Re: Is the price of Imperialism worth it?

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    "This article first ran on the English-language website of PressTV."

    to wit: (http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2012/09...-in-the-world/)

    That's PressTV.ir Iranian State media.

    I don't agree the USA is "imperialist", though being the world's policeman IS to damn expensive.
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    Re: Is the price of Imperialism worth it?

    I think the next candidate must go farther than reduce the Pentagon by half but also prmonise to shut down the CIA. The criminal CIA represents a government within a government
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    Re: Is the price of Imperialism worth it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kane View Post
    I think the next candidate must go farther than reduce the Pentagon by half but also prmonise to shut down the CIA. The criminal CIA represents a government within a government
    The CIA doesn't need a watchdog, it needs a seeing-eye dog. Without any excuse except the lame one of "we can't talk about our successes," they've guessed wrong time and time again. The treatment of one of their few brilliant operatives that was portrayed in Charlie Wilson's War reveals their true incompetence and uselessness to prevent foreign-policy disasters. They are a fun house of frat boys and abstract academics. Instead of recruiting these clowns, they should hire High IQs untainted by academentia or at least hire successful police detectives. Such proven talent should be trained fresh about secret and relevant foreign undercurrents.
    On the outside, trickling down on the insiders.
    We won't live free until the 1% live in fear.
    Hey, richboys! Imagine the boot of democracy stomping on your faces, forever.

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    Re: Is the price of Imperialism worth it?

    Quote Originally Posted by PrometheusBound View Post
    The CIA doesn't need a watchdog, it needs a seeing-eye dog. Without any excuse except the lame one of "we can't talk about our successes," they've guessed wrong time and time again. The treatment of one of their few brilliant operatives that was portrayed in Charlie Wilson's War reveals their true incompetence and uselessness to prevent foreign-policy disasters. They are a fun house of frat boys and abstract academics. Instead of recruiting these clowns, they should hire High IQs untainted by academentia or at least hire successful police detectives. Such proven talent should be trained fresh about secret and relevant foreign undercurrents.
    The promiise to shut down the CIA, the criminal CIA represents a government within a government, is non-negotiable. Wimpy liberals like John Kerry and Hillary Clinton have been making deals and looking the other way at CIA criminality for far too long, SHUT IT DOWN.


    Afghanistan vs. the Soviets was masterminded and carried out by CIA Director William Casey. Read the book THE LAST DAYS OF THE CIA by Mark Perry. Its a good map of how the CIAs policies really created the war on terror by funding villians the world over.

    Charlie Wilsons War w/ Tom Hanks, and Philip Seymour Hoffman is pure BS
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    Re: Is the price of Imperialism worth it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kane View Post
    the CIAs policies really created the war on terror by funding villians the world over.
    Wait, created the 'war on terror' or created terrorism.

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    Re: Is the price of Imperialism worth it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kane View Post
    Charlie Wilsons War w/ Tom Hanks, and Philip Seymour Hoffman is pure BS
    I believe random Hollywood movies not even pretending to be based on reality more than I believe CT. Tom Hanks and whoever that other guy is win.

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