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    Re: Should Harry Reid Resign?

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    Re: Should Harry Reid Resign?

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    I dont give a rats ass as long as he isnt breaking the law. And the funny thing is...none of YOU liberals give a **** either...when its a democrat we are talking about. Which says nothing about the rich folk but speaks VOLUMES about the liberals that pretend to give a **** and their complete lack of character.

    That was fun...NEXT nontopical response that has nothing to do with Harry Reid. Go.
    Who said it had nothing to do with Harry Reid? Reid was the one who pushed Romney into releasing some percentage of his tax returns. Now we know more about him than we ever have. I mean his positions on anything change day to day. But tax releases? They say a lot about who he is as a person. For example, now we know he wants to reduce income tax from 35% to 25%, an admirable idea which his own taxation doesn't reflect. He also raised taxes in Massachusetts by fees. None of which really affected him. We know he's not concerned about the poor or the homeless. Essentially his returns have shown he is exactly what people painted Obama as in the last election. He's an elitist who probably doesn't have interactions with the rest of America outside of hiring them as maids.
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    Re: Should Harry Reid Resign?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dion View Post
    It has not been debunked! In fact even on IRS forms in which Romney paid less than one third of the percentage that I paid as a full-time working nurse practioner ... it could be zero as he had hundreds of millions hidden offshore. What about the secretive forms from the ten years at Bain and where he invested the money he made while taking a slice of the pie to dismantle companies and jobs to make a handful of people uber wealthy?

    Proof Harry lied? No ...proof of Romney's secretive offshore financial record in which he boasts qualifies him him to be POTUS. No!

    I do not think Reid is perfect yet on many issues he is right on target! That was a bold move Reid pulled ... a boxing move ... now if Romneyy wants to open it up and 'prove" Reid lied ...well Reid would be the first to say Bring it on! Romney is a rich boy used to people placating him and Reid is a man.

    Nevada is such a bizarre state imho ... I am curious how it will go ... lots of Mormans. I only go to Nevada to bike in the canyons ... I hate Vegas.

    Former boxer and patriot ...Harry Reid is badass!

    Reid has less reason to resign than Romney!
    you paid over 40% effective rate on your taxes?.. i find that incredibly hard to believe... impossible to believe, actaully.


    the average effective income tax rate ( excluding fica) for each quintile are as follows
    1st : -6.8
    2nd: -0.4
    3rd : 3.3
    4th : 6.2
    5th : 14.4
    Historical Effective Federal Tax Rates for All Households

    it seems Romney has paid on par with his economic peers

    and you are in your own special class of uber-super-duper-ultra-rich nurses... with a 40+% effective rate.

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    Re: Should Harry Reid Resign?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Romney wasn't born in the US? News to me. We will get to the bottom of that legitimate issue in time. Now, what do you think about the fact that Romney pays a lower percentage in taxes than people who make far less than him and surely need the money more?
    let me guess... you are comparing his effective tax rate to other peoples marginal tax rate...correct?

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    Re: Should Harry Reid Resign?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    let me guess... you are comparing his effective tax rate to other peoples marginal tax rate...correct?
    No. I'm comparing it to this:

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    Re: Should Harry Reid Resign?

    wow... there's a huge difference between what your wiki graphic says and what the CBO and the center for tax policy says...

    here's a CBO pdf..
    http://www.cbo.gov/sites/default/fil...edtaxrates.pdf

    here is the Tax Policy Centers numbers.
    Baseline Tables: Effective Tax Rates by Cash Income Percentile; Baseline: Current Law, 2010

    I think i'll stick with my 2 sources over an anonymous wiki graphic..

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    Re: Should Harry Reid Resign?

    oddly enough... your wiki graphic claims ITEP is the source.... yet i can't find any such graphic on ITEP, nor any article on their site having anything to do with total federal effective tax rates.

    maybe you can be more successful than i have been at locating this data for corroboration...
    The Institute on Taxation and Economic Policy (ITEP)

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    Re: Should Harry Reid Resign?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    wow... there's a huge difference between what your wiki graphic says and what the CBO and the center for tax policy says...

    here's a CBO pdf..
    http://www.cbo.gov/sites/default/fil...edtaxrates.pdf

    here is the Tax Policy Centers numbers.
    Baseline Tables: Effective Tax Rates by Cash Income Percentile; Baseline: Current Law, 2010

    I think i'll stick with my 2 sources over an anonymous wiki graphic..
    Oh my bad, should have done more research. Still:



    On which of these does Romney fall with 13 million?
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    Re: Should Harry Reid Resign?

    at a touch over 14% individual income tax effective rate... looks like he falls just a touch higher than the average for the highest quintile..which is 13.6%

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    Re: Should Harry Reid Resign?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    you paid over 40% effective rate on your taxes?.. i find that incredibly hard to believe... impossible to believe, actaully.


    the average effective income tax rate ( excluding fica) for each quintile are as follows
    1st : -6.8
    2nd: -0.4
    3rd : 3.3
    4th : 6.2
    5th : 14.4
    Historical Effective Federal Tax Rates for All Households

    it seems Romney has paid on par with his economic peers

    and you are in your own special class of uber-super-duper-ultra-rich nurses... with a 40+% effective rate.
    Yes, if I include federal, state and other taxes and I was including FICA I paid almost 39% of my income in taxes.

    Romney reports in one year to have paid 13% ...yet with hundreds of millions of hidden income his actual rate was much less.

    Hmmm I earn over 6 figures ... yet I would hardly use your semantics of uber-super-duper ultra rich to describe a person such as me. I work my ass off ...with a FT position and a consulting business as I have my masters in managing chronic disease. i hardly think of that as super uper duper ... it is simply work I love and I have a skill in case management that helps people struggling with complex medical issues and saves tax payer money.

    I like my work ...it is nothing glamourous or "uber super duper" nor am I rich ...yet I do fairly well supporting myself and my children.

    Now because we do not know exactly how much Romney pays ... I suspect my best guess that I pay 3 times the percentage of what he pays on his income is a gross understatement on my part.

    I am not sure what you find so difficult to believe ... a person with their masters in managing complex cases of chronic disease that can improve clinical outcomes and lower costs for the payor be it private or public is in demand.

    Super duper ... believe what you want ... you are sadly speaking on something you seem to know little about. It is actually irrelevant.

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