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    Re: Should Harry Reid Resign?

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    He is foolish for releasing ANY of it because all it will do is cause people to spend the next four weeks with one argument after the other talking about his tax returns and NOT the problems this country is facing. And nice continued dodge on the reality that liberals never give a rats ass about this stuff...any of it...when its 'their guy'.
    They don't because for the last 26 years Democratic presidential nominees have released a sizeable amounts of returns. Now where are Romney's? I'd like to see a minimum of 5 returns otherwise, like Harshaw, I'll keep asking: "What is he hiding?"
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    Re: Should Harry Reid Resign?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    No, now you're misrepresenting what I said.

    First of all, I was explaining what someone else said. The full context of the thread shows that.

    Second of all, the part you highlighted was under the assumption that the short-form certificate was "real."

    Also, keeping mind that I was explaining someone else's statement there, it was about something other than his place of birth.

    Face it; you didn't even actually understand my post in the first place.

    Perhaps the further deflection indicates that you now realize that.




    That's completely idiotic. It's the equivalent accusation; I see you didn't even try to explain how it's wrong. When you've got nothing, I guess this is the best you can do.




    No mental acrobatics; it's just the way it is, and your handwaving indicates you can't dispute it.

    And continuing to dwell on this also indicates the lack of stones necessary to answer whether or not you think the PWC letter is forged/fraudulent/both, as it would have to be not to dispute Reid.

    So, answer up.
    I am not an expert on preparing taxes and I doubt you are either so we must depend on experts who know. This is what one of them says about the PWC letter.

    The letter did not give any dollar amounts of income or taxes paid. And it only referred to adjusted gross income, rather than total income, which can be substantially higher.

    "Adjusted gross income is not a full measure of income," said Roberton Williams, a senior fellow at the Tax Policy Center.

    Williams said the wealthy often use tax shelters and investments overseas to reduce their adjusted gross income and the resulting tax bite.

    "What you'd like to know is what was his full income from all sources and what taxes did he pay," Williams said. "That would give you an appropriate measure of his effective tax rate rate."
    Romney full tax history still a mystery - Sep. 21, 2012

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    Re: Should Harry Reid Resign?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    He released 2, and you haven't answered my question about the PWC summary going back to 1990. Do you think it's forged or fraudulent? C'mon, Hatuey; it's a simple question.
    Like you did with Obama's short birth certificate, I don't think it's anything other than a digital letter not proving anything. - What's wrong Harshaw? What was good for you 3 years ago is suddenly not good for liberals?
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    Re: Should Harry Reid Resign?

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    I am not an expert on preparing taxes and I doubt you are either so we must depend on experts who know. This is what one of them says about the PWC letter.

    Romney full tax history still a mystery - Sep. 21, 2012
    You don't even know what the topic of this thread is, apparently, because nothing here speaks to it.
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    Re: Should Harry Reid Resign?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Like you, I don't think it's anything other than a digital letter not proving anything. - What's wrong Harshaw? What was good for you 3 years ago is suddenly not good for liberals?
    Uh, no, don't include me in your delusions. It's a scan of a letter from PWC summarizing his taxes going back to 1990, and it directly refutes Reid's claim.

    The only way it doesn't is if it's forged or fraudulent. Which is it?
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    Re: Should Harry Reid Resign?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    They don't because for the last 26 years Democratic presidential nominees have released a sizeable amounts of returns. Now where are Romney's? I'd like to see a minimum of 5 returns otherwise, like Harshaw, I'll keep asking: "What is he hiding?"
    Why? What is it you THINK he is hiding and what does that say about ANY if the problems currently facing the people of this country? You will keep asking because you dont want to talk about 7 trillion in debt in just 3 years, about an inability to get a single democrat to vote for the presidents proposed budgets, about a failed economy and a 'plan' that consists of race and class baiting and tax and spend. You dont want to discuss bankrupt green companies that just happened to have contributed tons to the Obama campaign, or about Holders failures in the DOJ, or a burning middle east or failed relationships with European allies. You dont want to talk about continued failing GDP. Oh...but you DO want to talk about Romneys tax returns. And his shirt. Must be a slow week for you...no 'news' stories you can turn into 'clear' acts of racism?

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    Re: Should Harry Reid Resign?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Uh, no, don't include me in your delusions. It's a scan of a letter from PWC summarizing his taxes going back to 1990, and it directly refutes Reid's claim.

    The only way it doesn't is if it's forged or fraudulent. Which is it?
    Your false dichotomies aren't relevant to me. - So what is Romney hiding Harshaw? Why does he need this letter if he's confident in his tax returns? To paraphrase you: Why doesn't he just release them?
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    Re: Should Harry Reid Resign?

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Why? What is it you THINK he is hiding and what does that say about ANY if the problems currently facing the people of this country? You will keep asking because you dont want to talk about 7 trillion in debt in just 3 years, about an inability to get a single democrat to vote for the presidents proposed budgets, about a failed economy and a 'plan' that consists of race and class baiting and tax and spend. You dont want to discuss bankrupt green companies that just happened to have contributed tons to the Obama campaign, or about Holders failures in the DOJ, or a burning middle east or failed relationships with European allies. You dont want to talk about continued failing GDP. Oh...but you DO want to talk about Romneys tax returns. And his shirt. Must be a slow week for you...no 'news' stories you can turn into 'clear' acts of racism?
    tl/dr.

    What is Romney hiding?
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    Re: Should Harry Reid Resign?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Like you did with Obama's short birth certificate, I don't think it's anything other than a digital letter not proving anything. - What's wrong Harshaw? What was good for you 3 years ago is suddenly not good for liberals?
    Oh, look at that, Hatuey edited his post after I quoted him again.

    You continue to claim I said things about Obama's short-form certificate that I didn't say, even after it was pointed out to you twice, along with the difference in argument even if it had been what I said. If you're right, you don't have to make things up and lie about what others said.
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    Re: Should Harry Reid Resign?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Oh, look at that, Hatuey edited his post after I quoted him again.

    You continue to claim I said things about Obama's short-form certificate that I didn't say, even after it was pointed out to you twice, along with the difference in argument even if it had been what I said. If you're right, you don't have to make things up and lie about what others said.
    You argued in a long diatribe that the long birth certificate didn't prove much. That Obama was hiding something. Now all the sudden transparency is no longer an issue. I wonder why?
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