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    Re: Should we eliminate taxes that tax you for the right to own property?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Lets clear that up then shall we? Are you advocating states getting rid of taxes on property but not replacing the revenue with anything else?
    No, what makes you think I advocate that? I specifically said that I am not suggesting any changes in my state.

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    Re: Should we eliminate taxes that tax you for the right to own property?

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post

    Edit: Eleven posters voted to do away with property taxes. WTH???
    WTH is that we are already being taxed through the noses, and we are seeing government waste like never before. I personally resent the hell out of paying thousands of dollars per year for living on my property, when I don't have even water/sewer service, or other utilities available, and I don't have children in school, and after having paid a huge amount for the property itself, I don't own it outright, as the state can take possession of it if I don't pay them yearly, at their discretion of what the property is worth.
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    Re: Should we eliminate taxes that tax you for the right to own property?

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    WTH is that we are already being taxed through the noses, and we are seeing government waste like never before. I personally resent the hell out of paying thousands of dollars per year for living on my property, when I don't have even water/sewer service, or other utilities available, and I don't have children in school, and after having paid a huge amount for the property itself, I don't own it outright, as the state can take possession of it if I don't pay them yearly, at their discretion of what the property is worth.
    I don't disagree with you. In fact, I'm in much the same boat. My property taxes, for my little 3-BR, 2-BA home with 1-car attached garage are $4,800 a year. I've never had children in school. I get it. And I completely resent my county/city for the spending spree that's caused our real estate taxes to be absolutely outrageous. It's a bit like herding cats. Voters are powerless to fight the status quo.

    I definitely get it. If we were run by a government that wasn't so concerned with keeping their own little selves in power, our taxes would be 50% or less of what they are. Yet, the fact remains that property taxes are just one more way to collect revenue -- and pay the bills . . . as exorbitant and wasteful as they are.
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    Re: Should we eliminate taxes that tax you for the right to own property?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Yes its sensible. Why? Because these taxes pay for various things especially education my friend. Property tax fund schools
    Schools need to be state funded, as they mostly are. Not fudned by stealing property because they dont have a job now or are retired and cant pay massive taxes.

    This would eliminate all unequality in schools because of poor area funding vs rich area funding. All schools would pay the same and get the same
    funding for the same things.

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    Re: Should we eliminate taxes that tax you for the right to own property?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Some good examples of this would be car registration and property taxes where you are charged to use your property, be it your car, or your home. When the government charges you for use they are in effect taking ownership of whatever it might be over, be it again, your car or your home and in effect making you a renter. It is clear this is a violation of property rights in on both front, but the question remains do we as a people agree with it? There is of course other examples of such taxes and my question does in fact include them as well.

    It should also be noted for our liberal friends that in many states you must renew your registration on your car every year and this can run easily up in the hundreds of dollars. Obviously, this can make it challenging for the poorer among us to pay such fees. Considering that they are supporters of the progressive tax system and enjoy the argument that the poor can not pay higher taxes when arguing for such a system it would make sense then to believe they would not be in support of this kind of tax.
    IMO land tax is justified, though we could debate specific tax rates.

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    Re: Should we eliminate taxes that tax you for the right to own property?

    Quote Originally Posted by 274ina View Post
    Schools need to be state funded, as they mostly are.


    Mostly by which you mean maybe by 57% of funding received comes from the state in the vast majority of schools, and the rest comes mostly from local through property taxes. Just think about if we got rid of that 40% of funding.. Is that going to do more good?

    Not fudned by stealing property because they dont have a job now or are retired and cant pay massive taxes.
    Oh cmon...


    This would eliminate all unequality in schools because of poor area funding vs rich area funding. All schools would pay the same and get the same
    funding for the same things.
    Yes which would also make education a lot worse in this country.


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    Re: Should we eliminate taxes that tax you for the right to own property?

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    WTH is that we are already being taxed through the noses, and we are seeing government waste like never before. I personally resent the hell out of paying thousands of dollars per year for living on my property, when I don't have even water/sewer service, or other utilities available, and I don't have children in school, and after having paid a huge amount for the property itself, I don't own it outright, as the state can take possession of it if I don't pay them yearly, at their discretion of what the property is worth.
    I would definitely agree with changing things in my own state to reduce the cost of state government. Since schooling is not (economically speaking) a public good, I would certainly get behind the idea of education being provided by the private sector, rather than through state socialism.
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    Re: Should we eliminate taxes that tax you for the right to own property?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post


    Mostly by which you mean maybe by 57% of funding received comes from the state in the vast majority of schools, and the rest comes mostly from local through property taxes. Just think about if we got rid of that 40% of funding.. Is that going to do more good?


    Oh cmon...




    Yes which would also make education a lot worse in this country.


    well as you can see by your chart, only 10% of rich suberb funding is from property taxes. So making it all equal non-prop-tax funding would equal out
    all schools.

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    Shur....... equal funding will make schools worse....LOL

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    Re: Should we eliminate taxes that tax you for the right to own property?

    Quote Originally Posted by 274ina View Post
    well as you can see by your chart, only 10% of rich suberb funding is from property taxes. So making it all equal non-prop-tax funding would equal out
    all schools.
    What about the cities? Where most underdeveloped schools are? Or how about rural schools?

    What?
    Shur....... equal funding will make schools worse....LOL
    Think about it. Hows the state budget going to react?


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    Re: Should we eliminate taxes that tax you for the right to own property?

    Quote Originally Posted by Federalist View Post
    No, what makes you think I advocate that? I specifically said that I am not suggesting any changes in my state.
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