View Poll Results: Should we eliminate taxes that tax you for the right to own property?

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    Re: Should we eliminate taxes that tax you for the right to own property?

    Quote Originally Posted by specklebang View Post
    I went today to get my car registered and there was a woman talking about her troubles revolving around her living arrangements with her friends. When she got up to get her car registration renewed it turned out to cost her $220 dollars. I couldn't help to think how someone can afford to spend $220 dollars when they are having trouble finding a stable place to lay their heads at night.
    She was probably negligent in maintaining the car's registration. Now she better get that badboy legal, or her friends are gonna cut her off and kick her ass out of the crack-flophouse.

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    Re: Should we eliminate taxes that tax you for the right to own property?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Income taxes are even worse. In that case they are not only asserting ownership of property, but ownership of the fruits of your labor and anything they do not take is simply a gift from the real owner.
    Or the income tax is a measure in which to determine how much you pay in taxes. We got it...taxes are theft. Government is evil. I think there's an empty wooden shack in Montana that is vacant where you can get away from that intrusive government and all the things they pay for.
    “Capitalism is the astounding belief that the most wickedest of men will do the most wickedest of things for the greatest good of everyone.” John Maynard Keynes

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    Re: Should we eliminate taxes that tax you for the right to own property?

    You do realize that you are quoting Henrin, not Specklebang? Right?


    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    She was probably negligent in maintaining the car's registration. Now she better get that badboy legal, or her friends are gonna cut her off and kick her ass out of the crack-flophouse.

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    Re: Should we eliminate taxes that tax you for the right to own property?

    Quote Originally Posted by specklebang View Post
    You do realize that you are quoting Henrin, not Specklebang? Right?
    It looks like your post. You put the Henrin quote after. Anyway, I don't see how who posted it makes a difference; "noble savage" is what it is.

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    Re: Should we eliminate taxes that tax you for the right to own property?

    What is the "noble savage" thingy mean?




    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    It looks like your post. You put the Henrin quote after. Anyway, I don't see how who posted it makes a difference; "noble savage" is what it is.

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    Re: Should we eliminate taxes that tax you for the right to own property?

    Quote Originally Posted by specklebang View Post
    What is the "noble savage" thingy mean?
    The term noble savage (French, bon sauvage), expresses the concept of an idealized indigene, outsider (or "other"), and refers to the literary stock character of the same...

    The noble savage achieved prominence as an oxymoronic rhetorical device after 1851, when used sarcastically as the title for a satirical essay by English novelist Charles Dickens, who wished to disassociate himself from 18th and early 19th-century romantic primitivism.
    Noble savage - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


    It's a common problem with inexperienced cultural anthropology.

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    Re: Should we eliminate taxes that tax you for the right to own property?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    She was probably negligent in maintaining the car's registration. Now she better get that badboy legal, or her friends are gonna cut her off and kick her ass out of the crack-flophouse.
    Ok, I don't really wish to make assumptions on her situation. It could very well be she could of easily been able to afford everything fine when she bought the car and now her situation is worse leaving her struggling from day to day or it could be that she simply bought something she could not actually afford and failed to take everything into account. Either is equally possible and I'm sure there is other possible scenarios that could lead her to struggle with such fees. Still the point remains is the fee actually something she should have to deal with. These fees appear to only have two purposes, one is revenue, the other is for tracking purposes and neither actually is enough to warrant it once on a car, let alone yearly.

    Oh and what you quoted is from me, not specklebang.

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    Re: Should we eliminate taxes that tax you for the right to own property?

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    I'm pretty sure most Liberals would be fine with eliminating those taxes if the revenue instead was raised through a progressive state/local income tax.
    Revenue isn't raised by the rates as much as it is by the strength (or rather I would even say bubbling) of the economy/financial/credit markets. What happens to revenue when you raise or lower taxes is dependent/dynamic thing. It is conceivable (though not a given) that revenue could increase concurrently with a tax cut OR a tax hike. We saw both of these phenomena during Clinton's term: he raised income taxes and revenue jumped, then he cut taxes (the capital gains) and it REALLY jumped.

    Last edited by Neomalthusian; 09-21-12 at 04:02 PM.

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    Re: Should we eliminate taxes that tax you for the right to own property?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Noble savage - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


    It's a common problem with inexperienced cultural anthropology.

    Interesting, so my problem is I believe in noble savage? Can you explain how you came to that conclusion?

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    Re: Should we eliminate taxes that tax you for the right to own property?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Interesting, so my problem is I believe in noble savage? Can you explain how you came to that conclusion?
    You presumed that someone paying 220 for registration and living with friends is deserving of sympathy, and sought to use that narration as political rhetoric.

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