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End of the Republican Party?

Is the republican party dead?

  • Yes, it has been for some time.

    Votes: 1 2.9%
  • Yes, it will be all in good time.

    Votes: 5 14.7%
  • No, it is just going through a rough patch right now.

    Votes: 15 44.1%
  • No, it is doing just fine.

    Votes: 13 38.2%

  • Total voters
    34

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It seems as though this party hasn't had a legitimate candidate for presidency since Bush Sr.

You've had Bob Dole, Bush Jr. and now Romney. If these are the best the republican party can come up with, it seems to me it is on its deathbed.
 
Yeah, they said that in 2008 too....
 
It's not so much on its deathbed as it is preparing to split into two or three different entities.
 
It's not so much on its deathbed as it is preparing to split into two or three different entities.

Do you think that is a good idea? I mean wouldn't it be harder to get elected when you are fighting a organized democratic party and you are competing within your own fractured party?
 
Do you think that is a good idea? I mean wouldn't it be harder to get elected when you are fighting a organized democratic party and you are competing within your own fractured party?

I do think it's a good idea. Then again, what I see happening is this:

The Republican Party is going to splinter off into at least two groups. The Romney/McCain supporters and other moderate/centrists will retain the Republican name. The actual Conservatives will go off and join with a couple other smaller parties to form a true Conservative Party. Within the next decade or so, the Democratic Party is likely to see a similar split on their Left end, with the true Socialists leaving the party and forming their own Socio-Liberal Party and leaving the centrist/moderate Democrats behind. You will likely see a combining of those two remaining Democrat-Republican centrist groups and the formation of a Three Party system.
 
Somebody is always gleefully claiming the death of the GOP. I remember people were just sure of it after the 2008 elections, then came 2010. Was it just this year Scott Walker defeated recall efforts (despite supposedly being despised by everyone)? If the Dems can live down Jimmy Carter, Walter Mondale, John Kerry and Joe Biden, and the GOP survived Richard Nixon, neither party is going anywhere.
 
I do think it's a good idea. Then again, what I see happening is this:

The Republican Party is going to splinter off into at least two groups. The Romney/McCain supporters and other moderate/centrists will retain the Republican name. The actual Conservatives will go off and join with a couple other smaller parties to form a true Conservative Party. Within the next decade or so, the Democratic Party is likely to see a similar split on their Left end, with the true Socialists leaving the party and forming their own Socio-Liberal Party and leaving the centrist/moderate Democrats behind. You will likely see a combining of those two remaining Democrat-Republican centrist groups and the formation of a Three Party system.

Very interesting. I see the Republican party as we know it today, dead in the next 5-10 years. It will still be around in name, however I see the tea-party types dragging the Republican party further to the right and creating a larger gap in between. Those people left behind will most likely join the "Independent" party. Perhaps not too much different from your own idea just without the democrats splitting up.
 
yeah, and then we had the election of 2010.

What year was it that Scott Brown took Ted Kennedy's old seat? Only night I spent watching MSNBC coverage. Damn but they were mad. Lol.
 
Very interesting. I see the Republican party as we know it today, dead in the next 5-10 years. It will still be around in name, however I see the tea-party types dragging the Republican party further to the right and creating a larger gap in between. Those people left behind will most likely join the "Independent" party. Perhaps not too much different from your own idea just without the democrats splitting up.

I see the Democratic Party going the same way, OW. The far Leftists are no happier with the Democrats than we Conservatives are with the Republicans. The difference is that the Democrats are currently in power, and the Leftists aren't willing to slash their own throat while they're at least marginally in power.
 
Somebody is always gleefully claiming the death of the GOP. I remember people were just sure of it after the 2008 elections, then came 2010. Was it just this year Scott Walker defeated recall efforts (despite supposedly being despised by everyone)? If the Dems can live down Jimmy Carter, Walter Mondale, John Kerry and Joe Biden, and the GOP survived Richard Nixon, neither party is going anywhere.

On a side note, did you see the news that a Wisconsin judge just struck down the important parts of Walkers budget bill? Specifically the part that prohibits public employees from collectively bargaining for wages and benefits.

In my opinion (you might not be surprised) Kerry was a far better candidate than Bush was. It is hard to tell I guess because he was never elected, however, I think a few of us will agree that a large portion of Bush's second term was a disaster.
 
On a side note, did you see the news that a Wisconsin judge just struck down the important parts of Walkers budget bill? Specifically the part that prohibits public employees from collectively bargaining for wages and benefits.

In my opinion (you might not be surprised) Kerry was a far better candidate than Bush was. It is hard to tell I guess because he was never elected, however, I think a few of us will agree that a large portion of Bush's second term was a disaster.

There is no doubt in my mind that you are and have been moonstruck in love with every single candidate the Dems have put up since you've been old enough to have some understanding of politics.
 
There is no doubt in my mind that you are and have been moonstruck in love with every single candidate the Dems have put up since you've been old enough to have some understanding of politics.

well then you need to reconsider the definition of "in love" because you would be wrong.

Didn't really like Kerry, I was more in favor of Howard Dean. Just said he was a better candidate than Bush. Honestly, I didn't really like Obama either. Didn't dislike him, but I once again was in favor of the losing primary candidate John Edwards.
 
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On a side note, did you see the news that a Wisconsin judge just struck down the important parts of Walkers budget bill? Specifically the part that prohibits public employees from collectively bargaining for wages and benefits.

In my opinion (you might not be surprised) Kerry was a far better candidate than Bush was. It is hard to tell I guess because he was never elected, however, I think a few of us will agree that a large portion of Bush's second term was a disaster.

Perhaps the fact that there was a Democratic House and Senate during Bush's second term has something to do with that disaster?
 
It seems as though this party hasn't had a legitimate candidate for presidency since Bush Sr.

You've had Bob Dole, Bush Jr. and now Romney. If these are the best the republican party can come up with, it seems to me it is on its deathbed.
Must be embolden by your success in removing your Republican governor.:roll:
 
well then you need to reconsider the definition of "in love" because you would be wrong.

Didn't really like Kerry, I was more in favor of Howard Dean. Just said he was a better candidate than Bush. Honestly, I didn't really like Obama either. Didn't dislike him, but I once again was in favor of the losing primary candidate John Edwards.

By the time they all became the Democratic candidate, I'm sure you learned to love them. No worries, Buddy, keep up that wishful thinking that one day, your party will be the only on out there. I swear I just heard a wistful sigh from you. :lol:
 
Perhaps the fact that there was a Democratic House and Senate during Bush's second term has something to do with that disaster?

Have you forgotten Rule 1? Democrats are never responsible for anything bad that happens.
 
Have you forgotten Rule 1? Democrats are never responsible for anything bad that happens.

HAh said the conservative who's current party blames the president for EVERYTHING, even though the president isn't the one who creates legislation in this country...
 
By the time they all became the Democratic candidate, I'm sure you learned to love them. No worries, Buddy, keep up that wishful thinking that one day, your party will be the only on out there. I swear I just heard a wistful sigh from you. :lol:

Voted Gore in 2000, 3rd party in 2004, and Obama in 2008.. so you're not entirely correct.
 
HAh said the conservative who's current party blames the president for EVERYTHING, even though the president isn't the one who creates legislation in this country...
But if presidents dont create legislation, how is Bush responsible for the recession? And how is Obama able to take credit for our supposed recovery?
 
What year was it that Scott Brown took Ted Kennedy's old seat? Only night I spent watching MSNBC coverage. Damn but they were mad. Lol.

:) and the recall victory in wisconsin. Wish I had the power to flip to them at key points, but AFN controls who you watch, when.
 
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