View Poll Results: Is the republican party dead?

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    Re: End of the Republican Party?

    If the republicans were to go back to the days of Eisenhower, I'd actually be a republican. However, today's republican party has pushed me to the left and made those on the right demonize me for my beliefs.
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    Re: End of the Republican Party?

    Quote Originally Posted by OnWisconsin View Post
    It seems as though this party hasn't had a legitimate candidate for presidency since Bush Sr.

    You've had Bob Dole, Bush Jr. and now Romney. If these are the best the republican party can come up with, it seems to me it is on its deathbed.
    They doing just fine.The democrats and republicans are enjoying their two party monopoly and will continue to screw 3rd parties.
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    Re: End of the Republican Party?

    Quote Originally Posted by OnWisconsin View Post
    …My issue on this issue is putting blame where blame is due, and Obama has tried to push for MANY jobs bills but the Senate republicans have blocked him on EVERY one of them, always stating some excuse like "oh, it would never pass the house so why waste time on it".
    This is an opinion that annoys me to no end. A leader finds a way to get things passed. Does it even seem remotely acceptable for the ‘most powerful man in the world’ to try then just throw his hands up and say ‘they won’t do what I want’ and quit trying? Other presidents have had opposing parties in congress and were able to get things done…and this president ran on a platform of “turn the page on the ugly partisanship in Washington, so we can bring Democrats and Republicans together to pass an agenda that works for the American people." FAIL!
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    Re: End of the Republican Party?

    Quote Originally Posted by OnWisconsin View Post
    If the republicans were to go back to the days of Eisenhower, I'd actually be a republican. However, today's republican party has pushed me to the left and made those on the right demonize me for my beliefs.
    What, the liberal's "fuddy duddy" President? The one that liberals thought wasn't doing enough to stop McCarthy, not being liberal enough to further FDR's goals?

    Yeah, I'll believe that.

    Contemporary liberals found a decent man in Eisenhower because of a couple of his speeches (one of which coincidentally coincides with ahistorical commentary about the War in Iraq, wink wink nudge nudge). It's a disingenuous crock to make us think they would have gunned for a man like Ike in their ranks. It's presentist nonsense with all of the cherry picking you could dream of.
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    Re: End of the Republican Party?

    I think it's more like to go into Barry Goldwater type stuff rather than the Regan stuff.
    "We’re going to close the unproductive tax loopholes that allow some of the truly wealthy to avoid paying their fair share. In theory, some of those loopholes were understandable, but in practice they sometimes made it possible for millionaires to pay nothing, while a bus driver was paying ten percent of his salary, and that’s crazy." -Reagan

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    Re: End of the Republican Party?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    What, the liberal's "fuddy duddy" President? The one that liberals thought wasn't doing enough to stop McCarthy, not being liberal enough to further FDR's goals?

    Yeah, I'll believe that.

    Contemporary liberals found a decent man in Eisenhower because of a couple of his speeches (one of which coincidentally coincides with ahistorical commentary about the War in Iraq, wink wink nudge nudge). It's a disingenuous crock to make us think they would have gunned for a man like Ike in their ranks. It's presentist nonsense with all of the cherry picking you could dream of.
    This is fairly disingenuous, actually. Eisenhower called for more domestic spending than Stevenson, who, though liberal, was always regarded as something of a spendthrift.
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    Re: End of the Republican Party?

    Quote Originally Posted by OnWisconsin View Post
    If the republicans were to go back to the days of Eisenhower, I'd actually be a republican. However, today's republican party has pushed me to the left and made those on the right demonize me for my beliefs.
    Well, good thing you found the left where that kind of thing never happens.

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    Re: End of the Republican Party?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickieboy View Post
    This is an opinion that annoys me to no end. A leader finds a way to get things passed. Does it even seem remotely acceptable for the ‘most powerful man in the world’ to try then just throw his hands up and say ‘they won’t do what I want’ and quit trying? Other presidents have had opposing parties in congress and were able to get things done…and this president ran on a platform of “turn the page on the ugly partisanship in Washington, so we can bring Democrats and Republicans together to pass an agenda that works for the American people." FAIL!
    That is true it was different in "other times". This time though Obama had to contend with as many filibusters in his 1st term as the total number in all previous adminstrations combined. The GOP obssesion with making Obama a "one term President" has gridlocked Washington like never before. And never before has Congress gotten such low approval rating either in case you think it is Obama's fault.
    Maybe, just maybe, there will be a change in attitude next year because they can no longer keep up their obssesion.

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    Re: End of the Republican Party?

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Its not a redefinition its what the republican party was and should be...I was a republican for 43 yrs and the teaparty so turned me off that I left and am now a registered independent....the republican party was never for just the rich and against everything for everyone else
    And they're not now. I really wish people like you would stop telling other what it means to be a "real" conservative, especially when you do nothing but bash us now. That drives me more nuts than the most ardent partisan hackery.

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    Re: End of the Republican Party?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    And they're not now. I really wish people like you would stop telling other what it means to be a "real" conservative, especially when you do nothing but bash us now. That drives me more nuts than the most ardent partisan hackery.
    Part of the reason why former Republicans, like myself, bash you is because the Reaganaut wing of the GOP pursued a very deliberate policy of driving us out of the Party during the 1970s, 1980s, and 1990s.

    We were there first.
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