View Poll Results: Is the republican party dead?

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  • Yes, it has been for some time.

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  • Yes, it will be all in good time.

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  • No, it is just going through a rough patch right now.

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    Re: End of the Republican Party?

    Quote Originally Posted by OnWisconsin View Post
    HAh said the conservative who's current party blames the president for EVERYTHING, even though the president isn't the one who creates legislation in this country...
    So I can presume you don’t blame Bush…right?
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    Re: End of the Republican Party?

    Quote Originally Posted by OnWisconsin View Post
    HAh said the conservative who's current party blames the president for EVERYTHING, even though the president isn't the one who creates legislation in this country...
    LOL!!!

    Obama has succeeded in creating a LOT of crappy legislation. For that he deserves ALL the blame. God knows the rest of his Democratic Party hasn't done squat that he hasn't told them to do.
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    Re: End of the Republican Party?

    Quote Originally Posted by OnWisconsin View Post
    It seems as though this party hasn't had a legitimate candidate for presidency since Bush Sr.

    You've had Bob Dole, Bush Jr. and now Romney. If these are the best the republican party can come up with, it seems to me it is on its deathbed.
    Absolutely not. For one thing the Republicans will have control of the House after the election. And if Obama wins reelection, they will probably have control of the Senate in 2014 too. People claim that one party is dying after every Presidential election, but their always wrong.
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    Re: End of the Republican Party?

    Quote Originally Posted by OnWisconsin View Post
    It seems as though this party hasn't had a legitimate candidate for presidency since Bush Sr.
    Define "legitimate".

    Bob Dole, Bush Jr. and now Romney
    So.. McCain was "legitimate"?

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    Re: End of the Republican Party?

    No!! its not dead and these claims that the Dem party is dead now its the GOP is dead are just silly. What is dead about the republican party is the far right agenda...its the same when they said it was the end of the dem party...it was the end of the far left agenda.
    American is not either conservative no progressive they are MODERATE and reasonable for the most part. I believed from the day this far right thing gripped the GOP that it would be a fail.

    Know what the real shame of all this is to me...WE NEED REFORMS badly and If the Republicans would have just stopped being far right idiots for a few minutes we might have gotten a decent compromise through and made some damn progress...simpson boles variation but at least something going in the right direction...but all they did was stonewall and act like far right nutters JUST LIKE PELOSI and her crew acted like far left nutters and got thrown out of the house...Get it right WE NEED moderation and compromise and nothing less is going to work

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    Re: End of the Republican Party?

    The GOP will do what the Democrats did at the end of Segregation, change their platform to change with the times. Their stance on things like gay marriage, church and state, and immigration will almost certainly have to change within the next two decades to keep up with changing demographics. However, politicians win by listening to the constituents, and the GOP will do this if it means victory.
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    Re: End of the Republican Party?

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    No!! its not dead and these claims that the Dem party is dead now its the GOP is dead are just silly. What is dead about the republican party is the far right agenda...its the same when they said it was the end of the dem party...it was the end of the far left agenda.
    American is not either conservative no progressive they are MODERATE and reasonable for the most part. I believed from the day this far right thing gripped the GOP that it would be a fail.

    Know what the real shame of all this is to me...WE NEED REFORMS badly and If the Republicans would have just stopped being far right idiots for a few minutes we might have gotten a decent compromise through and made some damn progress...simpson boles variation but at least something going in the right direction...but all they did was stonewall and act like far right nutters JUST LIKE PELOSI and her crew acted like far left nutters and got thrown out of the house...Get it right WE NEED moderation and compromise and nothing less is going to work
    The competition of narratives, seems to me, stems from a complete lack of satisfaction with politics and the American government, a dissatisfaction I do not share. For the longest time we have heard the two canards of bi-partisanship at the same time that we heard the canards for "clear cut choices."

    Moderate action is seen as a crutch for both party bases, even though both parties need to rely upon the moderates to make headway. Both want the "real" representatives of their ideologies to step up, and call any who do not fall in line in all matters as fakes.

    Moderates/Independents are deeply unsatisfied with politics as a mechanism because it is supposedly soulless and lacking in common sense, though they cannot note how much can go better otherwise. They pull up the moderates as the real soul of the American public, desiring their own opposition force to both parties. I'm not so convinced.
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    Re: End of the Republican Party?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    yeah, and then we had the election of 2010.
    The difference is elections on the national v. state level.
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    Re: End of the Republican Party?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    The competition of narratives, seems to me, stems from a complete lack of satisfaction with politics and the American government, a dissatisfaction I do not share. For the longest time we have heard the two canards of bi-partisanship at the same time that we heard the canards for "clear cut choices."

    Moderate action is seen as a crutch for both party bases, even though both parties need to rely upon the moderates to make headway. Both want the "real" representatives of their ideologies to step up, and call any who do not fall in line in all matters as fakes.

    Moderates/Independents are deeply unsatisfied with politics as a mechanism because it is supposedly soulless and lacking in common sense, though they cannot note how much can go better otherwise. They pull up the moderates as the real soul of the American public, desiring their own opposition force to both parties. I'm not so convinced.

    Perfect analysis Fiddy ...but in the end the only way anything gets done is through compromise.

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    Re: End of the Republican Party?

    The republican party I used to identify with is long gone. The demise started around the Gergrich/Starr era.

    This new GOP should not last much longer. Soon, I'm certain a "new and improved" GOP will surface much to the dismay of the tea party/Limbaugh types. And out of the ashes a new, stronger GOP will emerge.

    We just have to do a little house cleaning and retake and redefine what "conservatism" actually supposed to mean and kick these teabag whackos to the curb.

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