View Poll Results: Are there any examples of free speech that you believe fall under restrictions?

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  • Screaming fire and guns in a crowded auditorium/theater/church etc

    25 96.15%
  • Not acting on it yet making a film about the joys of children sexuality

    9 34.62%
  • Writing or speaking reasons why one might want to shoot or kill a candidate running for POTUS

    9 34.62%
  • Speaking inflammatory words to a culture where our troops and tax revenues are invested

    3 11.54%
  • Media produced inciting hatred while troops/citizens in that culturein order to incite violence

    5 19.23%
  • Protesting military funerals by taunting the fallen as our pay back for not being perfect

    5 19.23%
  • Making a film or writing a book about that denigrates women as not worthy except for sex services

    1 3.85%
  • Distributing a film in a country where our troops are stationed saying they represent Satan

    2 7.69%
  • Loudly bellowing sexual, political, and religious insults

    4 15.38%
  • Intentionally speaking of unproven deviant sexual inuendo of another to their community

    8 30.77%
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Thread: The First Amendment

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    The First Amendment

    I am going to throw out examples of what some people might view as free speech and ask you if you think they fall under the protection of our first Amendment.

    Here is one reference for the First Amendment ... please add others to the thread if you think they might be helpful.

    First Amendment | LII / Legal Information Institute

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    Re: The First Amendment

    Quote Originally Posted by Dion View Post
    I am going to throw out examples of what some people might view as free speech and ask you if you think they fall under the protection of our first Amendment.

    Here is one reference for the First Amendment ... please add others to the thread if you think they might be helpful.

    First Amendment | LII / Legal Information Institute
    Free speech? Any objections to the list in the poll not being protected by the First Amendment?



    The most basic component of freedom of expression is the right of freedom of speech. The right to freedom of speech allows individuals to express themselves without interference or constraint by the government. The Supreme Court requires the government to provide substantial justification for the interference with the right of free speech where it attempts to regulate the content of the speech. A less stringent test is applied for content-neutral legislation. The Supreme Court has also recognized that the government may prohibit some speech that may cause a breach of the peace or cause violence. For more on unprotected and less protected categories of speech see advocacy of illegal action, fighting words, commercial speech and obscenity. The right to free speech includes other mediums of expression that communicate a message. The level of protection speech receives also depends on the forum in which it takes place

    First Amendment | LII / Legal Information Institute

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    Re: The First Amendment

    Only the first and the last. The second when children are exploited, but you didn't specify that.

    The first because people's immediate and rational reactions can cause unwarranted danger.

    The lst because it is libelous, resulting in harm.
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    Re: The First Amendment

    Screaming fire and guns in a crowded auditorium/theater/church etc

    This is the only one I voted for.

    The last one seems to be just typical gossip. We're not going to go around arresting people for that. I think slander/libel is a step further than that, like saying "Obama was arrested for child abuse" or something, when knowing it is false.

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    Re: The First Amendment

    Pat Condell on Islam, America, First Amendment.

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    Re: The First Amendment

    Every example listed is protected under the first amendment

    Lets review it again..

    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

    There you go.

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    Re: The First Amendment

    By question #:
    1. The direct response to this action often results in injury and is meant specifically to cause injury
    2. I don't see how such a film would be possible without breaking some other laws that aren't first amendment related
    5. The exact same principal as #1. If one is intentionally creating a situation where someone will get hurt or killed, than that person is as responsible for any harms as the people who riot, loot, or whatever. If they cause a riot on accident, than they are not responsible, but just stupid.

    I don't think the international situation we are dealing with now is #5 though.

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    Re: The First Amendment

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Every example listed is protected under the first amendment

    Lets review it again..

    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

    There you go.
    Even shouting "Fire" in a theater is protected under the First Amendment?

    Rights only go so far as they don't infringe on other people's rights. Shouting "fire" in a theater abridges others of their right to life and limb. That example is actually the definition used by SCOTUS to show that free speech is not infinite.
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    Re: The First Amendment

    Loudly bellowing sexual, political, and religious insults
    This here - why did you group sex, politics and religion together?
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    Re: The First Amendment

    Quote Originally Posted by MadLib View Post
    Even shouting "Fire" in a theater is protected under the First Amendment?


    Rights only go so far as they don't infringe on other people's rights. Shouting "fire" in a theater abridges others of their right to life and limb. That example is actually the definition used by SCOTUS to show that free speech is not infinite.
    Yes, even shouting fire in a theater is protected under the first amendment. Can you not read what it says?

    Anyway, speech in your example is not the act that is responsible for deaths. That would be the idiots that can't handle being orderly. Speech can not kill, sorry.

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