View Poll Results: Are there any examples of free speech that you believe fall under restrictions?

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  • Screaming fire and guns in a crowded auditorium/theater/church etc

    25 96.15%
  • Not acting on it yet making a film about the joys of children sexuality

    9 34.62%
  • Writing or speaking reasons why one might want to shoot or kill a candidate running for POTUS

    9 34.62%
  • Speaking inflammatory words to a culture where our troops and tax revenues are invested

    3 11.54%
  • Media produced inciting hatred while troops/citizens in that culturein order to incite violence

    5 19.23%
  • Protesting military funerals by taunting the fallen as our pay back for not being perfect

    5 19.23%
  • Making a film or writing a book about that denigrates women as not worthy except for sex services

    1 3.85%
  • Distributing a film in a country where our troops are stationed saying they represent Satan

    2 7.69%
  • Loudly bellowing sexual, political, and religious insults

    4 15.38%
  • Intentionally speaking of unproven deviant sexual inuendo of another to their community

    8 30.77%
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Thread: The First Amendment

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    Re: The First Amendment

    I don't think the government needs more tools through which it can jail its populace. We already jail the highest percentage of our population than pretty much anyone else (even China, which I find disturbing). The fact is we already made these designations long ago and took care of "intent" issues. Since the law is already in place, there is no need for extra law to make it easier for government to prosecute its citizens.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: The First Amendment

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I don't think the government needs more tools through which it can jail its populace. We already jail the highest percentage of our population than pretty much anyone else (even China, which I find disturbing). The fact is we already made these designations long ago and took care of "intent" issues. Since the law is already in place, there is no need for extra law to make it easier for government to prosecute its citizens.
    It isn't easier to prosecute a hate crime (it's actually harder), and no new crimes are created. The only difference is, we punish some murders and assaults more severely because we feel they are more of a threat to our communities.

    Well, that, and the feds got more jurisdiction.

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    Re: The First Amendment

    Quote Originally Posted by Pinkie View Post
    I am not sure how to reply, Henrin. If you reject conspiracy as a criminal act then of course the acts of conspirators are not criminal.
    Well of course I reject it and for good reason. There is no harm done by simply putting up a plan to kill someone. It is perhaps not pleasant to think people are doing it, but there is no reason to make it a crime.

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    Re: The First Amendment

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Well of course I reject it and for good reason. There is no harm done by simply putting up a plan to kill someone. It is perhaps not pleasant to think people are doing it, but there is no reason to make it a crime.
    And yet, this has been a crime since the Magna Carta. Go figure.

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    Re: The First Amendment

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Well of course I reject it and for good reason. There is no harm done by simply putting up a plan to kill someone. It is perhaps not pleasant to think people are doing it, but there is no reason to make it a crime.
    So, an attempted assassination attempt that is unsuccessful should carry not penalty? Alright....

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    Re: The First Amendment

    Quote Originally Posted by Pinkie View Post
    [COLOR="#cc0066"]It isn't easier to prosecute a hate crime (it's actually harder), and no new crimes are created.
    Of course a new crime was created, it's called Hate Crime.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: The First Amendment

    Quote Originally Posted by Pinkie View Post
    It isn't easier to prosecute a hate crime (it's actually harder), and no new crimes are created. The only difference is, we punish some murders and assaults more severely because we feel they are more of a threat to our communities.
    So the idea is that a racist will assault/kill more regularly than someone that is not? What is the basis for this, if so?


    Well, that, and the feds got more jurisdiction.
    I find it bizarre how a word can increase your sentence for murder as if the crime itself changes at all because of it.

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    Re: The First Amendment

    Quote Originally Posted by Pinkie View Post
    And yet, this has been a crime since the Magna Carta. Go figure.
    Many things in the past that we have decided to no long follow went on for a very long time before we decided to stop them. Some of them centuries in fact. Doesn't mean anything at all really.

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    Re: The First Amendment

    Quote Originally Posted by zstep18 View Post
    So, an attempted assassination attempt that is unsuccessful should carry not penalty? Alright....
    Planning an act on someones life and failing at it when you actually try to pull it off are different things.

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    Re: The First Amendment

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Of course a new crime was created, it's called Hate Crime.
    Okay, in the absence of a murder or assault, how would a person be charged with a hate crime IYO?

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