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Should The US Make Speech That's Critical or Disparaging of Muhammed a Crime? [W:636]

Should The US Make Speech That's Critical or Disparaging of Muhammed a Crime?

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Pinkie said:
Well, the FCC does regulate broadcasters, but if they did not, the system would break down. A channel has to be assigned, frequencies partioned out, etc.

At one time, the FCC DID censor the content of tv. But to my (admittedly limited) knowledge, that has not been true in at least a decade.
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Well that's not exactly true. The standards have been majorly relaxed but I think somethings, like dropping f bombs or showing genitalia are strictly prohibited. To be honest, his argument is interesting to me. Maybe there shouldn't be any regulation of TV content. Let the channels decide what they want to air and the consumer decide what they want to watch. That's a different discussion though, I think, from whether laws should be in place to protect one single religion from ridicule. I think that beyond free speech, that could violate the establishment clause of the first amendment by singling out one religion for special protection from defamation.
 
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Guy Incognito said:
I don't think anybody has the right to impose their prudery on others, whether they themselves are prudes or not.
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Children must be considered. While nudity and profanity might be ok for some, there is insufficient reason for the public not to be allowed to vote to prohibit it in the public commons, whether the airwaves or streets.
 
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ecofarm said:
Children must be considered. While nudity and profanity might be ok for some, there is insufficient reason for the public not to be allowed to vote to prohibit it in the public commons, whether the airwaves or streets.
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So nudity and profanity hurt children? How would nudity and profanity hurt children exactly, if so?
 
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Henrin said:
So nudity and profanity hurt children? How would nudity and profanity hurt children exactly, if so?
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I'm not judging that. I'm giving the public the right to vote regarding nudity and profanity in the (limited) public commons.
 
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Henrin said:
So nudity and profanity hurt children? How would nudity and profanity hurt children exactly, if so?
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Would you let your kids watch porn?
 
X Factor said:
Well that's not exactly true. The standards have been majorly relaxed but I think somethings, like dropping f bombs or showing genitalia are strictly prohibited. To be honest, his argument is interesting to me. Maybe there shouldn't be any regulation of TV content. Let the channels decide what they want to air and the consumer decide what they want to watch. That's a different discussion though, I think, from whether laws should be in place to protect one single religion from ridicule. I think that beyond free speech, that could violate the establishment clause of the first amendment by singling out one religion for special protection from defamation.
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Maybe there are restrictions on PBS, NBC, ABC and CBS still. If there are, they are mere shadows of their former selves.

As for any other channel, no, I can't imagine what is prohibited. Can you, given what they do broadcast?
 
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X Factor said:
Would you let your kids watch porn?
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Of course not, let's be fair. Nudity and profanity is not porn necessarily. It'd sure bring some advertising dollars, what do you think people are gonna watch for free on TV?
 
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X Factor said:
Would you let your kids watch porn?
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Given its popularity doesn't pretty much everybody view/read/watch what is now routinely called porn?

LOL. We cannot get enough. Can we? Technology is driven by it. And it always has been.
 
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ecofarm said:
I'm not judging that. I'm giving the public the right to vote regarding nudity and profanity in the (limited) public commons.
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My living room is not the public commons, eco.

And anyway, I don't think there's been a successful prosecution for obscenity of ANY kind in this country in decades.
 
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Pinkie said:
This is also a nuisance post. Do you have a POV on the OP, sir?
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I have given it. Did you miss it? Are you a groupie?
 
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ecofarm said:
Children must be considered. While nudity and profanity might be ok for some, there is insufficient reason for the public not to be allowed to vote to prohibit it in the public commons, whether the airwaves or streets.
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Uh, the "save the children" chestnut has run out of gas on obscenity, eco. MANY years ago.
 
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Pinkie said:
My living room is not the public commons, eco.
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Hello? The airwaves. Like streets. We only have so many and people gotta vote on what can and cannot be on them. Do whatever you want with cable, net, etc. That's your business. But not in the streets. Drive your super monster truck on your property and places permitted, but not I-95. Party all you want, but not in public parks. Be vulgar all you want, but not on public airwaves.
 
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Pinkie said:
This is not my day to play Supreme Court Justice, and I do it as a volunteer only for people who ask respectfully. I do not care to research this arcania for you.
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In other words the answer is...this law is just a tool for democrats to use against republicans. It is a goofy law. Everyone knows we have no King but Caesar.
 
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X Factor said:
Would you let your kids watch porn?
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What I would allow my children to watch has really nothing to do with if it should be restricted it or not. I will say however that there is no chance it could hurt a child. No matter what people think of porn it is nothing more than human interaction.
 
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Pinkie said:
I did miss it. Link?
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It cannot be too far back. Good luck with your hunt. I am sure you are eager to see it.
 
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Guy Incognito said:
Well, I am a prude, and I don't think anybody has the right to impose their prudery on others, whether they themselves are prudes or not.
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YOU are a prude? Holy cow, I cannot believe I am reading this. You are the foulest-spoken person on DP, IMO.

Am I being punked?
 
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ecofarm said:
Hello? The airwaves. Like streets. We only have so many and people gotta vote on what can and cannot be on them. Do whatever you want with cable, net, etc. That's your business. But not in the streets. Drive your super monster truck on your property and places permitted, but not I-95. Party all you want, but not in public parks.
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Streets are not "airwaves".

Airwaves- The medium used for the transmission of radio and television signals.
 
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Pinkie said:
Uh, the "save the children" chestnut has run out of gas on obscenity, eco. MANY years ago.
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Public airwaves are like public streets and not only adults are subject to them.
 
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Henrin said:
Streets are not "airwaves"

Airwaves- The medium used for the transmission of radio and television signals.
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It's a limited, common, public resource. Regulation by vote is fair. Just like for streets and water.
 
ecofarm said:
Neo-nazi gang (2 males and a female?) attacked someone/people in the street (pipes/knives?) and the material found in their possession (home) lead to a conviction of the publisher/leader, due to the direct and real of the publishings.
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So, nothing in what the publisher disseminated was used to commit the murder? No "how to buy a knife", etc.?

That does sound like a VERY unusual case.
 
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ecofarm said:
It's a limited common resource.
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Yeah, that is great and all but streets are still not airwaves.
 
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ecofarm said:
It's a limited, common, public resource. Regulation by vote is fair. Just like for streets and water.
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Who cares if it is a limited common public resource? How does that even make a difference?

Btw, how do you even get a channel on tv without cable or satellite anymore? I thought they all but destroyed that when it all went digital.
 
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ecofarm said:
Hello? The airwaves. Like streets. We only have so many and people gotta vote on what can and cannot be on them. Do whatever you want with cable, net, etc. That's your business. But not in the streets. Drive your super monster truck on your property and places permitted, but not I-95. Party all you want, but not in public parks. Be vulgar all you want, but not on public airwaves.
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Public nudity in the park is hardly the same as watching Janet Jackson expose her boob on CBS.
 
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Henrin said:
Btw, how do you even get a channel on tv without cable or satellite anymore? I thought they all but destroyed that?
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It's good that you have no idea what you're talking about. That makes me feel better.
 
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