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Thread: Should The US Make Speech That's Critical or Disparaging of Muhammed a Crime? [W:636]

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    Re: Should The US Make Speech That's Critical or Disparaging of Muhammed a Crime? [W:

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    Whatever the content of the video, the maker has the right to share it.

    This applies to both liberals and conservatives.
    Whatever the content?

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    Re: Should The US Make Speech That's Critical or Disparaging of Muhammed a Crime? [W:

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    It's not what you're indignant about that's the problem, it's what you're not indignant about that's so odious.

    The answer is obvious to anybody who isn't advancing a bigoted anti-Muslim agenda, that no decent person would participate in a riot nor purposefully incite a riot. Why on earth is it so hard to condemn this video? Are you that hateful of Islam?
    I haven't even seen the video and I don't care HOW offensive it is. NO video made in California is unconstitutional, nor should it be, because it inspired a riot (assuming you think so) in Libya.

    WHY are you so anxious to strip away all our freedoms?

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    Re: Should The US Make Speech That's Critical or Disparaging of Muhammed a Crime? [W:

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    Whatever the content?
    Yes.

    Ideologues don't get to decide what content is permissable.

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    Re: Should The US Make Speech That's Critical or Disparaging of Muhammed a Crime? [W:

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    Yes.

    Ideologues don't get to decide what content is permissable.
    So you're opposed to all forms of censorship, including censorship of nudity and profanity?

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    Re: Should The US Make Speech That's Critical or Disparaging of Muhammed a Crime? [W:

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    So you're opposed to all forms of censorship, including censorship of nudity and profanity?
    If it's private content that's not forced onto the public via public channels, yes.

    Consider a series or movie in DVD form. The maker(s) have the right to make it as they see fit, and sell it. However, there are guidelines when it comes to broadcasting shows and movies on the very public TV channels, and so they ought to be followed.

    However I see this discussion is turning to something else, so let's return to the topic at hand.

    Both liberal and conservative film makers can produce whatever movies they want without fear of Big Brother meddling in their affairs.

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    Re: Should The US Make Speech That's Critical or Disparaging of Muhammed a Crime? [W:

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    So you're opposed to all forms of censorship, including censorship of nudity and profanity?
    Restricting the time, place and manner in which something is shown is different from restricting it entirely.

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    Re: Should The US Make Speech That's Critical or Disparaging of Muhammed a Crime? [W:

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    If it's private content that's not forced onto the public via public channels, yes.

    Consider a series or movie in DVD form. The maker(s) have the right to make it as they see fit, and sell it. However, there are guidelines when it comes to broadcasting shows and movies on the very public TV channels, and so they ought to be followed.

    However I see this discussion is turning to something else, so let's return to the topic at hand.

    Both liberal and conservative film makers can produce whatever movies they want without fear of Big Brother meddling in their affairs.
    Yeah, yeah, more authoritarian justification for hypocrisy. So you like free speech when it comes to bashing Muslims and indirectly inciting riots in Islamic countries, but when it comes to harmless nudity on public television you have no problem with "ideologues deciding what is permissible." Pfft.

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    Re: Should The US Make Speech That's Critical or Disparaging of Muhammed a Crime? [W:

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    Restricting the time, place and manner in which something is shown is different from restricting it entirely.
    You're confusing American first amendment jurisprudence with the genuine human right of freedom of expression.

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    Re: Should The US Make Speech That's Critical or Disparaging of Muhammed a Crime? [W:

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    Yeah, yeah, more authoritarian justification for hypocrisy. So you like free speech when it comes to bashing Muslims and indirectly inciting riots in Islamic countries, but when it comes to harmless nudity on public television you have no problem with "ideologues deciding what is permissible." Pfft.
    I don't think you understand.

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    Re: Should The US Make Speech That's Critical or Disparaging of Muhammed a Crime? [W:

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    Restricting the time, place and manner in which something is shown is different from restricting it entirely.
    Not nearly enough of a difference I'm afraid.

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