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Thread: Should The US Make Speech That's Critical or Disparaging of Muhammed a Crime? [W:636]

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    re: Should The US Make Speech That's Critical or Disparaging of Muhammed a Crime? [W:636]

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    Only if you consider challenging groupthink to be trolling. These are things people need to consider. I'm not going to stand idly by while a bunch of participants in a Muslim-bashing session pat themselves on the back for being champions of free speech. It's absurd. And if you think the framers were Godlike figures, you need to account for their inherent savagery as slave owners and racists.
    It's interesting the savagery you see, and the savagery you don't - or, at least don't seem too concerned about.

    I never once trolled or poed this thread,
    I wouldn't admit that. I was actually giving you the benefit of the doubt.

    that's why I keep asking people to read what I write carefully.

    By the way; I notice you failed to dredge up a contradiction from my posts! I cheerfully accept your failure to back up your libelous statement as your de facto concession on this point.
    Guy, first you give every reason possible why you think nobody should disparage Muhammed, then you claim that you don't think it should be a crime - well unless it's incitement, and maybe "incitement" should be expanded due to the Internet. You're not condoning killing people over a video but you do place making a video on the same level as murder. You claim some belief in free speech but find the Constitution to be pretty much useless as used toilet paper because the framers were horrible, evil people. I tell you that you're arguing just to argue, you deny that but then admit to someone else that you're just playing devil's advocate. It really looks to me that you're taking positions you know will get the most rise out of people while throwing out little digs about things going over people's heads, statements being "libelous" (I laughed) and telling certain people not to even talk to you - there's an Internet term for people who post as you have in this thread.
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    re: Should The US Make Speech That's Critical or Disparaging of Muhammed a Crime? [W:636]

    Quote Originally Posted by Pinkie View Post
    Here's a lesson in freedom of speech, although DP is hardly the government:

    I have the right to address you. You have the right to ignore me.
    You haven't got a right to keep harassing me, as you have been doing in this and other threads, so I ask you again to stop.

    I will not be speaking with you again.

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    re: Should The US Make Speech That's Critical or Disparaging of Muhammed a Crime? [W:636]

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    You haven't got a right to keep harassing me, as you have been doing in this and other threads, so I ask you again to stop.

    I will not be speaking with you again.
    Time will tell. The smart money says "yes, you will."

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    re: Should The US Make Speech That's Critical or Disparaging of Muhammed a Crime? [W:636]

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    It's interesting the savagery you see, and the savagery you don't - or, at least don't seem too concerned about.



    I wouldn't admit that. I was actually giving you the benefit of the doubt.



    Guy, first you give every reason possible why you think nobody should disparage Muhammed, then you claim that you don't think it should be a crime - well unless it's incitement, and maybe "incitement" should be expanded due to the Internet. You're not condoning killing people over a video but you do place making a video on the same level as murder. You claim some belief in free speech but find the Constitution to be pretty much unless as used toilet paper because the framers were horrible, evil people. I tell you that you're arguing just to argue, you deny that but then admit to someone else that you're just playing devil's advocate. It really looks to me that you're taking positions you know will get the most rise out of people while throwing out little digs about things going over people's heads, statements being "libelous" (I laughed) and telling certain people not to even talk to you - there's an Internet term for people who post as you have in this thread.
    Like I said, direct quotes to my posts, if you please. You are grossly mischaracterizing my argument. I explained it succinctly to pirate a few posts back, that may help you understand.

    All you proved above is your inability to follow instructions
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    re: Should The US Make Speech That's Critical or Disparaging of Muhammed a Crime? [W:636]

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    You haven't got a right to keep harassing me, as you have been doing in this and other threads, so I ask you again to stop.

    I will not be speaking with you again.
    Good grief, Guy. Replying to a thread is not harassment.



    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    Like I said, direct quotes to my posts, if you please. You are grossly mischaracterizing my argument. I explained it succinctly to pirate a few posts back, that may help you understand.

    All you proved above is your inability to follow instructions
    Whose instructions am I supposed to follow? Tell me what I've mischaracterized?
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    re: Should The US Make Speech That's Critical or Disparaging of Muhammed a Crime? [W:636]

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    Should The US Make Speech That's Critical or Disparaging of Muhammed a Crime? [W:636]Let's knock off the personal crap shall we? And while we're at it, let's knock off the baiting and flaming as well. If you don't want to respond to someone, don't respond to them. This is a debate site and if you are going to post, people are going to respond.
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    Re: Should The US Make Speech That's Critical or Disparaging of Muhammed a Crime? [W:

    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh_Akston View Post
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    Should The US Make Speech That's Critical or Disparaging of Muhammed a Crime? [W:636]Let's knock off the personal crap shall we? And while we're at it, let's knock off the baiting and flaming as well. If you don't want to respond to someone, don't respond to them. This is a debate site and if you are going to post, people are going to respond.
    Am I breaking some rule by asking politely?

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    Re: Should The US Make Speech That's Critical or Disparaging of Muhammed a Crime? [W:

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    Am I breaking some rule by asking politely?
    I'm not a moderator, nor do I claim any authority, but the answer seems obvious to me.

    You may politely ask anything you want. You may ask Pinkie to sign over the title to her car to you, or to paint her toenails green, or to shave her head. Doesn't mean she has any obligation to honor such a request, nor does it even mean that you have any rational reason to expect that such a request will be granted or even considered.

    This is a public thread on a public forum. I see no basis whatsoever for you to claim any ownership over it. If you do not want Pinkie, or anyone else, to respond to you, then you are entirely free to not post anything in this thread to which such a response might be given.

    I believe there is also an “Ignore” feature that you may use, to spare yourself the unbearable horror of seeing responses from Pinkie, or anyone else whose responses bother you.
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    Re: Should The US Make Speech That's Critical or Disparaging of Muhammed a Crime? [W:

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    And if you think the framers were Godlike figures, you need to account for their inherent savagery as slave owners and racists.
    Seriously, it is a point of established doctrine in my religion that God inspired the men who founded this nation and wrote our Constitution; that he specifically brought them forth to do so.

    If I, and others of my faith, were to threaten to behave very badly every time you write disparaging things about the great men who founded this nation, would this be a valid basis on which to prohibit you from writing such things?
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    Re: Should The US Make Speech That's Critical or Disparaging of Muhammed a Crime? [W:

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    Seriously, it is a point of established doctrine in my religion that God inspired the men who founded this nation and wrote our Constitution; that he specifically brought them forth to do so.

    If I, and others of my faith, were to threaten to behave very badly every time you write disparaging things about the great men who founded this nation, would this be a valid basis on which to prohibit you from writing such things?
    Are you saying that the forefathers were Prophets of god?

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