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Thread: Should The US Make Speech That's Critical or Disparaging of Muhammed a Crime? [W:636]

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    Re: Should The US Make Speech That's Critical or Disparaging of Mohammed a Crime?

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Uh, that chip on your shoulder is way too big to ignore. Why not get a half a dozen of your friends to help remove it and put it on the floor?
    Why are you so worried about the chip on my shoulder, when you should remove the plank from your own shoulder?

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    Re: Should The US Make Speech That's Critical or Disparaging of Mohammed a Crime?

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    Why are you so worried about the chip on my shoulder, when you should remove the plank from your own shoulder?
    I try to help. Are you unable to even get the sayings right? I thought not.

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    re: Should The US Make Speech That's Critical or Disparaging of Muhammed a Crime? [W:636]

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    The problem is anything could be construed as an "incitement" to violence. Didn't some people get killed because someone drew a cartoon of Muhammed?
    There are actually fairly clear guidelines (legally speaking) related to incitement. There's a whole legal test structure and a bunch of precedent.

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    re: Should The US Make Speech That's Critical or Disparaging of Muhammed a Crime? [W:636]

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    The problem is anything could be construed as an "incitement" to violence. Didn't some people get killed because someone drew a cartoon of Muhammed?
    under the so called indirect incitement to violence I agree, but indirect incitement to violence is a pointelss term that means nothing and should not even be used.
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    re: Should The US Make Speech That's Critical or Disparaging of Muhammed a Crime? [W:636]

    This might be the most one sided Poll (where only members can vote and they are ID'd) I have seen in 7 years

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    Re: Should The US Make Speech That's Critical or Disparaging of Mohammed a Crime?

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    I come from the academic tradition of Nozickian/Rothbardian libertarians. Frankly, I have never understood you folks who hold the framers up like gods, and why you think that following the constitution as they wrote it has anything to do with libertarianism.
    Whatever you may think of this nation's founders, they certainly deserve far more respect than the subhuman savages to whom you would like to give power over us. I cannot imagine any rational argument in favor of the idea that the wishes of subhuman savages who have no standing in our society should carry any weight at all in this society.

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    As for your question, you have made me into a Strawman, and slurred a religion of peace, so it is not possible for me to answer other than to say you need to get your facts straight, both about me and the Islamic faith.
    No, I did not. I said nothing about the Islamic religion. I accurately described a group of subhuman savages, who are no better than dumb, wild, violent animals. That these savages claim to be adherents of the Muslim faith, and use this as an excuse for their behavior, has no relevance at all. As it happens, I have a great many friends and colleagues who are Muslims. It is you who have insulted my Muslim friends, by implying that Islam has any relevance to the behavior of the wild animals who are under discussion.

    I do not blame my friends' Muslim faith for the behavior of the savages that are under discussion, any more than I, as a Christian, would expect to be blamed for the behavior of Fred Phelps and his gang, or for groups like the Ku Klux Klan.
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    Re: Should The US Make Speech That's Critical or Disparaging of Mohammed a Crime?

    Quote Originally Posted by Quag View Post
    Agreed, though I think you should just ignore the term indirect incitement to violence as it is meaningless. Now what in the question:
    Should The US Make Speech That's Critical or Disparaging of Muhammed a Crime?
    Makes you have any hesitation to say NO!
    it does not talk of incitement to violence but of speech that is disparaging or critical of Muhammed. I could care less if you replace Muhammed with Christ, Buddha, Vishnu, Obama, Romney, or even Bob who lives next door and doesnt pick up after his dog. The answer in every single case is NO!
    I don't have a dog. If I did have a dog, I would certainly clean up after it, as necessary.
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    Re: Should The US Make Speech That's Critical or Disparaging of Mohammed a Crime?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    I don't have a dog. If I did have a dog, I would certainly clean up after it, as necessary.
    Sorry I meant the Bob living on the other side
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    Re: Should The US Make Speech That's Critical or Disparaging of Mohammed a Crime?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    Whatever you may think of this nation's founders, they certainly deserve far more respect than the subhuman savages to whom you would like to give power over us. I cannot imagine any rational argument in favor of the idea that the wishes of subhuman savages who have no standing in our society should carry any weight at all in this society.



    No, I did not. I said nothing about the Islamic religion. I accurately described a group of subhuman savages, who are no better than dumb, wild, violent animals. That these savages claim to be adherents of the Muslim faith, and use this as an excuse for their behavior, has no relevance at all. As it happens, I have a great many friends and colleagues who are Muslims. It is you who have insulted my Muslim friends, by implying that Islam has any relevance to the behavior of the wild animals who are under discussion.

    I do not blame my friends' Muslim faith for the behavior of the savages that are under discussion, any more than I, as a Christian, would expect to be blamed for the behavior of Fred Phelps and his gang, or for groups like the Ku Klux Klan.
    AMEN. I am done with the if-you-won't-surrender-your-freedom-of-speech-you-must-hate-Muslins nonsense.

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    re: Should The US Make Speech That's Critical or Disparaging of Muhammed a Crime? [W:636]

    Personally, I've always considered slave owners to be subhuman savages. All thinking people agree with me on this.

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