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Thread: Should The US Make Speech That's Critical or Disparaging of Muhammed a Crime? [W:636]

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    re: Should The US Make Speech That's Critical or Disparaging of Muhammed a Crime? [W:636]

    Quote Originally Posted by Pinkie View Post
    And I ask again: WHAT censorship?


    I just hope you aren't smoking tonight, Pinkie, cause one little ember and that straw man of his would go "whoosh".
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    re: Should The US Make Speech That's Critical or Disparaging of Muhammed a Crime? [W:636]

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Pinkie, you know paper publishers/hate group leaders have been successfully prosecuted for more than the hate speech.
    Yes, but those prosecutions were based on criminal acts. So, for example, in the "Solider of Fortune" case, a magazine allowed personal ads to run, offering hit man services. A hit man was in fact hired through the ad, and the magazine's owner's was prosecuted and convicted for conspiracy.

    Or, in the Palladin Press case, a publisher of self-help books published a "How To Get Away With Murder" manual. A purchaser of that book followed the instructions and a murder took place. The publisher, facing conspiracy charges, withdrew the book from circulation as part of a plea agreement -- even though many 1st Amendment pundits thought he would win.


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    Re: Should The US Make Speech That's Critical or Disparaging of Mohammed a Crime?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    Isn't it possible in the USofA to be charged with a crime for conspiring to kill the president?
    Without ever leaving your bedroom, can't you be charged with a crime for simply blogging about such a thing?

    No shots fired, never being closer than 1000 miles away, but just discussing over the phone, or through the internet can't you be charged with a crime?
    I think that is only true if you are nominally a Republican speaking out against a Democrat. The converse is not likely to be investigated or prosecuted.

    Is it helpful to talk about killing a president? Generally it is not.

    But we can vote. If elections are stolen...then all bets are off.

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    re: Should The US Make Speech That's Critical or Disparaging of Muhammed a Crime? [W:636]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    I just hope you aren't smoking tonight, Pinkie, cause one little ember and that straw man of his would go "whoosh".
    I'm just wondering where Guy's getting all these allegations he's making, because they sure seem baseless to me.

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    Re: Should The US Make Speech That's Critical or Disparaging of Mohammed a Crime?

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    He DID translate it into Arabic. What did he think was going to happen? They'd all become Christians?

    This thread shows the inability of the right to get past simplistic jingoism. Did anybody think this wouldn't happen? The simmering rage of Islam that you all are telling us about...well, he poured gasoline on it...Hello?
    I think every one of us should mock Islam every day. We should destroy their holy places and show the islamists that their god is a farce. But I have no strong opinion on this.

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    re: Should The US Make Speech That's Critical or Disparaging of Muhammed a Crime? [W:636]

    Quote Originally Posted by Pinkie View Post
    Yes, but those prosecutions were based on criminal acts.
    For example, a neo-nazi leader and publisher convicted of murder, iirc.

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    Re: Should The US Make Speech That's Critical or Disparaging of Mohammed a Crime?

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    I think that is only true if you are nominally a Republican speaking out against a Democrat. The converse is not likely to be investigated or prosecuted.

    Is it helpful to talk about killing a president? Generally it is not.

    But we can vote. If elections are stolen...then all bets are off.
    This was such a nuisance post. I really don't care if you are still nursing a grudge over Bush beating Gore. IMO, this is completely and totally unacceptable.

    There is nothing civil about assasination jokes.

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    re: Should The US Make Speech That's Critical or Disparaging of Muhammed a Crime? [W:636]

    Quote Originally Posted by Pinkie View Post
    I'm just wondering where Guy's getting all these allegations he's making, because they sure seem baseless to me.
    I think he's talking about FCC regs, Pinkie. Basically saying that if you truly believe in free speech, you'll oppose any and all imposed standards of...ah...decency on network TV (that about right, Guy?).

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    re: Should The US Make Speech That's Critical or Disparaging of Muhammed a Crime? [W:636]

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    For example, a neo-nazi leader and publisher convicted of murder, iirc.
    Is this a real murder, eco? Or a hypothetical?

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    re: Should The US Make Speech That's Critical or Disparaging of Muhammed a Crime? [W:636]

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    I think he's talking about FCC regs, Pinkie. Basically saying that if you truly believe in free speech, you'll oppose any and all imposed standards of...ah...decency on network TV (that about right, Guy?).
    Precisely. That's a very big part of censorship going on today that needs to be addressed.

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