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    Re: Should The US Make Speech That's Critical or Disparaging of Mohammed a Crime?

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    Needing to pay for access makes no meaningful difference. Even if it did, it is possible to access the net for free at libraries and public computers. YouTube is free. The fact that Internet requires a subscription is no different from cabl, which is also censored.

    Your distinction is neither a real distinction nor, should we grant a distinction arguendo, is the distinction a meaningful one.
    It's meaningful enough to require public regulation, as a public good. Your backpedal and denial doesn't change reality.

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    Re: Should The US Make Speech That's Critical or Disparaging of Mohammed a Crime?

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    yet nobody is doing anything to protect the right of network TV to curse or show nudity.
    I have done that a few times.

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    Re: Should The US Make Speech That's Critical or Disparaging of Mohammed a Crime?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    I have done that a few times.
    Bravo!

    I can see why a person as devoted to freedom o speech as you might defend the right of the filmmaker. But if a person is willing to defend the right of somebody to disparage religious figures with the intent to incite violence, but DOES NOT defend the right to put boobs on TV, that is, in my correct opinion, hypocrisy.

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    Re: Should The US Make Speech That's Critical or Disparaging of Mohammed a Crime?

    Haymarket. Your use of Machiavellian implies intent, insight, and control of the filmmaker. However, your assumption is a strange one. How would he know that the exact nature of the response would be as such? Should he understand that anger would be displayed in the criticism of the film, does that make a common-house definition of a "troll" is a Machiavellian? Or is that person-the "troll"- a simpleton who by sheer stupidity and obnoxiousness inspires unrest ? Part of the point of Machiavellian behavior is that one is incredibly cunning and in control of the situation, where I sense the exact opposite. I think you give this man far too much credit in his designs.
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    Re: Should The US Make Speech That's Critical or Disparaging of Mohammed a Crime?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Only if those depictions utilize public airwaves. The public has the right (responsibility, even) to regulate public airwaves, in a public manner.
    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    It's on the public Internet. I don't see a meaningful distinction there.
    The “public airwaves” are a limited resource. There is only so much bandwidth available. There needs to be some system to determine which content gets to use which parts of this bandwidth, as it is not possible for all of the content to be carried on it that everyone might want to transmit. There is, of course, plenty of room to argue about whether the manner in which the FCC regulates the use of this bandwidth is appropriate, or about how else it might be regulated, but clearly some sort of regulation is necessary and proper. Without regulation of some sort, this resource would be rendered useless.

    The Internet is much less limited, and is carried on a very large patchwork of privately-built and privately-owned networks. There is certainly much, much less reason for the government to be involved in regulating how it is to be used.
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    Re: Should The US Make Speech That's Critical or Disparaging of Mohammed a Crime?

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    Bravo!
    Why do you want nudity and profanity on public airwaves? You don't get enough from other sources? As a public good (a commons) and a limited resource, I am fine with keeping those few stations fit for family enjoyment. I vote no nudity or profanity on public airwaves and I'm in the majority, so tough crap.

    I think you are taking libertarian to a stupid extreme on this issue.

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    Re: Should The US Make Speech That's Critical or Disparaging of Mohammed a Crime?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Are you being intentionally obtuse? When you acquire a TV, you have access to public airwaves free of charge. When you acquire a computer, do you have the internet free of charge (for ever and ever)?
    Ever heard of free WiFi?

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    Re: Should The US Make Speech That's Critical or Disparaging of Mohammed a Crime?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Why do you want nudity and profanity on public airwaves? You don't get enough from other sources? As a public good (a commons) and a limited resource, I am fine with keeping those few stations fit for family enjoyment. I vote no nudity or profanity on public airwaves and I'm in the majority, so tough crap.

    I think you are taking libertarian to a stupid extreme on this issue.
    Stations that wanted to bring in the family unit would show things for that audience while everyone else would not. There is also nothing to be scared about with nudity or human interaction. I don't see how this is a stupid extreme when there is no reason what so ever for the government to act.

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    Re: Should The US Make Speech That's Critical or Disparaging of Mohammed a Crime?

    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFromAll View Post
    Ever heard of free WiFi?
    If you are a patron somewhere. Not in your house.

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    re: Should The US Make Speech That's Critical or Disparaging of Muhammed a Crime? [W:636]

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Simple question (I hope it's obvious I mean the Prophet Muhammed, I just couldn't include that in the title due to space limitations)?

    Edit: Crap, I hit "go" before I had a chance to post the poll (and it won't let me delete my OP, so I can try again). Can a poll still be added?

    Edit2: Ok, I figured it out.
    I'm sorry, but this was a horrifically stupid poll. Not the even the most extremes of any political lean on here have said yes.
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    I've got to say that it is shadenfreudalicious to see the rich and famous fucquewads on the coast suffering from the fires.

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