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    Re: Should The US Make Speech That's Critical or Disparaging of Mohammed a Crime?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Only if those depictions utilize public airwaves. The public has the right (responsibility, even) to regulate public airwaves, in a public manner.
    It's on the public Internet. I don't see a meaningful distinction there.

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    Re: Should The US Make Speech That's Critical or Disparaging of Mohammed a Crime?

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    It's on the public Internet. I don't see a meaningful distinction there.
    Right along with naked breasts and cursing.... No distinction?
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    Re: Should The US Make Speech That's Critical or Disparaging of Mohammed a Crime?

    Quote Originally Posted by Arbo View Post
    Right along with naked breasts and cursing.... No distinction?
    The point is that it should all be permitted, in all media. And if you are only going to censor one type of thing, I think your answer to the question of whether we ban boobs on TV or Islamphobic incitement on the Internet says a lot about a person's values. Nobody ever got hurt by a pair of boobs.

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    Re: Should The US Make Speech That's Critical or Disparaging of Mohammed a Crime?

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    Nobody ever got hurt by a pair of boobs.
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    Re: Should The US Make Speech That's Critical or Disparaging of Mohammed a Crime?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    I got bruises once.
    Are you complaining or bragging?

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    Re: Should The US Make Speech That's Critical or Disparaging of Mohammed a Crime?

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    Are you complaining or bragging?
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    Re: Should The US Make Speech That's Critical or Disparaging of Mohammed a Crime?

    I mentioned something similar in another post...there is a difference between the first amendment and common sense. It's called respect. You can make all the laws you want, but none of them will teach people how to respect.
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    Re: Should The US Make Speech That's Critical or Disparaging of Mohammed a Crime?

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    Nobody gets hurt from pornography, obscenity and crude language. Why anybody would do mental gymnastics to protect the "right" to incite violence is beyond me.
    There's a substantial difference between actively "inciting violence" and stating something that causes people to irrationally act violent.

    "GO KILL THAT MAN" as you point and usher a crowd to go mob him is problematic on the part of the speaker and those acting

    "I HATE THE COWBOYS" as a Cowboys fan walks by...and suddenly a group of people that were cheering on your statement run over and mob the guy...is problematic on the part of those ACTING not the speaker.

    To suggest that action taken which one could reasonably assume would not specifically promote or encourage violence in a rationally acting person should be made illegal simply because a large enough population chooses to systematically act IRRATIONAL is beyond ridiculous. More than that, it actually ENCOURAGES people to act irrationally violent and problematic to things they are offended by because doing such will ensure that said offense is made illegal.

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    Re: Should The US Make Speech That's Critical or Disparaging of Mohammed a Crime?

    Quote Originally Posted by helix2048 View Post
    You can make all the laws you want, but none of them will teach people how to respect.
    Since the movie in question mocked a dead warlord, is there anything inherent to this particular warlord that demands respect vs any other warlord?
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    Re: Should The US Make Speech That's Critical or Disparaging of Mohammed a Crime?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    There's a substantial difference between actively "inciting violence" and stating something that causes people to irrationally act violent.

    "GO KILL THAT MAN" as you point and usher a crowd to go mob him is problematic on the part of the speaker and those acting

    "I HATE THE COWBOYS" as a Cowboys fan walks by...and suddenly a group of people that were cheering on your statement run over and mob the guy...is problematic on the part of those ACTING not the speaker.

    To suggest that action taken which one could reasonably assume would not specifically promote or encourage violence in a rationally acting person should be made illegal simply because a large enough population chooses to systematically act IRRATIONAL is beyond ridiculous. More than that, it actually ENCOURAGES people to act irrationally violent and problematic to things they are offended by because doing such will ensure that said offense is made illegal.
    As I said, it was indirect incitement and ought to be allowed, ideally, under principles of free speech. But we haven't GOT free speech in this country anyway; so why start now, with something as odious and volatile as THIS?

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