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    re: Should The US Make Speech That's Critical or Disparaging of Muhammed a Crime? [W:636]

    Quote Originally Posted by Connery View Post
    haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa....................it is just an absurd concept that these fringe lunatics make demands that any democratic society change their ways because they will get mad if they hear something they do not like.....
    Yeah, especially in light of the fact that they are now "democracies".
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    re: Should The US Make Speech That's Critical or Disparaging of Muhammed a Crime? [W:636]

    Quote Originally Posted by Connery View Post
    haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa....................it is just an absurd concept that these fringe lunatics make demands that any democratic society change their ways because they will get mad if they hear something they do not like.....
    Try skimming the thread, then tell me I was wrong to start a discussion about this. Geez.

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    re: Should The US Make Speech That's Critical or Disparaging of Muhammed a Crime? [W:636]

    Quote Originally Posted by Connery View Post
    I understand that, but, that freedom of speech is one of the reasons the US and other like countries have been able to make advancements sociologically, in medicine and technology in how we as human beings. To abridge those freedoms would be to stunt the grow of a democratic society stands for. The people or groups that commit mayhem and murder because of words or ideals they do not like cannot dictate to a sovereign nation. such as the US. An effective protest can bring about change two examples in the US are the Vietnam protests and Civil Rights marches, those are example of freedom of Speech in action.

    There are limitations to freedom of Speech, there is no such thing as complete free speech as far as I know.
    very true in regards to the civil rights marches but could you not also argue that it was your type of "freedom of speech" that allowed white people to ban people of colour from stores, public transport, schools etc in the first place.
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    re: Should The US Make Speech That's Critical or Disparaging of Muhammed a Crime? [W:636]

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    Yeah, especially in light of the fact that they are now "democracies".
    And accept anything from the US that has to do with aid, commerce or matériel.

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    re: Should The US Make Speech That's Critical or Disparaging of Muhammed a Crime? [W:636]

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    very true in regards to the civil rights marches but could you not also argue that it was your type of "freedom of speech" that allowed white people to ban people of colour from stores, public transport, schools etc in the first place.
    And you could also argue that freedom of speech is what spurred justice and equality to be served in the very same issues.
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    re: Should The US Make Speech That's Critical or Disparaging of Muhammed a Crime? [W:636]

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Try skimming the thread, then tell me I was wrong to start a discussion about this. Geez.
    There wasn't, my statement was both humorous and rhetorical.....GEEZ......

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    re: Should The US Make Speech That's Critical or Disparaging of Muhammed a Crime? [W:636]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    The movie was about the life of a historical figure (or "an" historical figure if I wish to satisfy all dictates). As such, the reaction is entirely up to those who reacted, who were not maligned directly.

    What so many of you fail to understand is that the adoption of an ideology is completely a matter of choice. Sure, hundreds of millions of Muslims DO NOT see it as choice, which is part and parcel of the problem in dealing with in regards to their totalitarianism, but the fact remains that there is an enormous difference between expressing disgust with an ideology freely chosen and hate speech directed against people for those matters beyond their control. Just because you cannot understand this distinction, that doesn't mean others can't.
    No I understand the distinction but I feel like your all being a little naive if you expect people from around the world to accept being insulted just because your country allows it, this is never been the way of the world. Generally every action has a consequence and at this point anyone with an ounce of commen sense knows how the arab world is going to react and its then where you have to ask "is it worth it?"
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    re: Should The US Make Speech That's Critical or Disparaging of Muhammed a Crime? [W:636]

    Spud you make me sad.

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    re: Should The US Make Speech That's Critical or Disparaging of Muhammed a Crime? [W:636]

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Try skimming the thread, then tell me I was wrong to start a discussion about this. Geez.
    What I find amusing is how one of the very first posts took you to task for even asking such questions in a poll, yet poster after cowardly poster answers a hearty yes in their apologist rhetoric without having the balls to answer a direct "yes" in the actual poll.
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    re: Should The US Make Speech That's Critical or Disparaging of Muhammed a Crime? [W:636]

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    No I understand the distinction but I feel like your all being a little naive if you expect people from around the world to accept being insulted just because your country allows it, this is never been the way of the world. Generally every action has a consequence and at this point anyone with an ounce of commen sense knows how the arab world is going to react and its then where you have to ask "is it worth it?"
    OMG- this has never been the way of the world? Surely you jest!
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    -C G Jung

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