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    Re: Should The US Make Speech That's Critical or Disparaging of Mohammed a Crime?

    Quote Originally Posted by Pinkie View Post
    we'd be left grunting at one another.[/COLOR]
    and after that, should we smoke a cigarette whilst in the afterglow?
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    Re: Should The US Make Speech That's Critical or Disparaging of Mohammed a Crime?

    Quote Originally Posted by Pinkie View Post
    The government has no free speech rights, jet. Only an individual can.
    I don't see that.
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    Re: Should The US Make Speech That's Critical or Disparaging of Mohammed a Crime?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    I think you are missing my point, there, Pinky. I was simply pointing out the irony that if the case turned on whether or not the father had direct contact with the goons, and the reason for this was all the fine people who show up at these funerals to provide a human shield against this disgusting filth, then the fact that such people did provide a shield prevented the success of the suit.

    I am no lawyer, but I would have argued that if the actions of the human filth make it necessary for others to show up en masse in order to prevent such direct contact, then this really provides no excuse for the actions, themselves, since such actions make the response necessary in order to avoid the contact. .
    Well, and by no means apologizing for the WBC, the "direct contact" requirement could have been met by a protester except that since no fights have ever broken out between the good people who shield mourners and the WBC creeps, it'd be very hard to class the WBC's signs and chants as "fighting words".

    And we don't actually know what would have happened had a shielder sued the WBC, because that wasn't the posture the case was in when the Supreme Court took it up.

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    Re: Should The US Make Speech That's Critical or Disparaging of Mohammed a Crime?

    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    I don't see that.
    A military recruiter, in the scope of his duties, speaks for the government, which has no guaranteed free speech rights. Therefore, barring recruiters (as recruiters) from a college campus just isn't a freedom of speech issue.

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    Re: Should The US Make Speech That's Critical or Disparaging of Mohammed a Crime?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    and after that, should we smoke a cigarette whilst in the afterglow?
    Only if we make no smoke rings someone on the planet might find offensive to the point of growing violent.

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    Re: Should The US Make Speech That's Critical or Disparaging of Mohammed a Crime?

    Quote Originally Posted by Pinkie View Post
    Only if we make no smoke rings someone on the planet might find offensive to the point of growing violent.
    Considering what we just did before the smokes, I think we should expect nothing less than armageddon.
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    Re: Should The US Make Speech That's Critical or Disparaging of Mohammed a Crime?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    Considering what we just did before the smokes, I think we should expect nothing less than armageddon.
    Ya, here's a thought that should chill these anti-free speech types: if we concede and outlaw speech trashing the Prophet Muhammed, we'll also have to outlaw porn. In fact, as I understand it, all visual images of people, clothed or not.

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    Re: Should The US Make Speech That's Critical or Disparaging of Mohammed a Crime?

    This is how I really feel on this case.

    Jones is despicable and should be mocked endlessly.

    There are consequences to free speech .... however, excepting certain limited circumstances that are defined as "not protected speech", there is nothing the government can or should do in this case.

    Additionally, this situation is not even remotely analogous to "shouting fire". ( I had started another thread with some wild examples on that SCOTUS ruling) . If you applied that standard (SCOTUS) to this situation, every little thing that we believe, or write, or speak that goes against someone's religion could be considered an incitement to violence.

    People are responsible for the actions that they take. If the actions involve killing people because they were offended well then they can go **** themselves.
    Last edited by Turin; 09-16-12 at 03:07 PM.

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    Re: Should The US Make Speech That's Critical or Disparaging of Mohammed a Crime?

    I am amazed that there are 3 votes for yes. I mean ya gotta speak nice about Muhammed and the Tooth Fairy. Especially fairies. Let's not be suggesting that Muhammed was a pedophile because Aisha was only 9 years old. Heaven forbid! I don't really know, but I think the AssCrack worshippers need to be treated as well. Keerist, where's a good fumigator when you need one? I think the key word is "treated."

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    Re: Should The US Make Speech That's Critical or Disparaging of Mohammed a Crime?

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    I am amazed that there are 3 votes for yes. I mean ya gotta speak nice about Muhammed and the Tooth Fairy. Especially fairies. Let's not be suggesting that Muhammed was a pedophile because Aisha was only 9 years old. Heaven forbid! I don't really know, but I think the AssCrack worshippers need to be treated as well. Keerist, where's a good fumigator when you need one? I think the key word is "treated."
    My freedom of speech allows me to tell you that your ignorance of Islam is showing, and that I dislike anyone using this topic as an excuse to parade their bigotry.

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